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Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by shaneofalltrad »

gtaylor wrote: post #111
azinman2 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly none of those are very good. The UX, speed, stability, etc is lacking. Eclipse is ok if you're only doing Java (and was good 10 years ago, but the UX is irrelevant today), but sucks for everything else. IntelliJ is the only one do better support other languages but it too is quite clunky, and I use it regularly. Sublime is not on the verge of becoming an IDE, nor any of those other ones. There are way too ma…

Jetbrains IDEs are highly regarded and run very well under Linux.

I agree, use Pycharm, Webstorm and PHPStorm(rarely these days) on all of my Ubuntu laptops with no issues except when doing things any IDE would slow on, due to the background activity(your cpu) out of the control of the Software.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by smortaz »

We've been asked this by a few people, so I figured this is a good place to respond:

Will PTVS (Python Tools for Visual Studio) come to VSCode?

The answer is YES! This will be a major focus next year. Expect full intellisense, debugging, profiling, pkg mgmt, unit test, virtual env, multiple interpreter, Jupyter, etc. support.

Disc: Python/R/Jupyter team lead

https://www.visualstudio.com/features/python-vs

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by shaneofalltrad »

jacobush wrote: post #90
mkaziz wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've tried Eclipse, Netbeans, Komodo IDE, Geany, and found them either too clunky and unusable on my older machine, or too barebones with little intellisense. I did start using Sublime Text once, but didn't stick it out long enough to get used to it. I haven't tried the JetBrains products, to be fair.

Jetbrains really is great. It's like Eclipse, without the bugs and faster. For Python, nothing beats Wings IDE. Both proprietary tho.

I have the same question, what makes wings better than pycharm?

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by tonyarkles »

jaruche wrote: post #58

Who cares, VS Code is nothing more than a fancy text editor. Not and IDE.

That's a plus in my books! I've tried all of the popular highly-rated IDEs and keep coming back to emacs. VS Code is the first Windows editor that I've used that I don't hate.

I actually feel quite conflicted. Right now, my favourite dev machine is my Surface 3 non-pro. I use VS Code for local development, and SSH to a tmuxed emacs session on the beefy Linux box at home. My whole life I've generally hated Windows, but since Git for Windows includes bash, it's actually not a bad environment. CMake can target the Visual Studio compiler too, so cross-platform work is pretty smooth too.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by odonnellryan »

gtaylor wrote: post #111
azinman2 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly none of those are very good. The UX, speed, stability, etc is lacking. Eclipse is ok if you're only doing Java (and was good 10 years ago, but the UX is irrelevant today), but sucks for everything else. IntelliJ is the only one do better support other languages but it too is quite clunky, and I use it regularly. Sublime is not on the verge of becoming an IDE, nor any of those other ones. There are way too ma…

Jetbrains IDEs are highly regarded and run very well under Linux.

I love Jetbrains products, but under Linux they are nowhere near as stable as VS is on Windows, or even Jetbrains apps on Windows.

They're slower, and some features don't quite work right all the time.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by datashovel »

farnsworth wrote: post #140
datashovel wrote: post #125

What I find quite odd is Microsoft rarely seems to show up on front page of HN, then all of a sudden in concert all of the top links on front page are Microsoft related. It's not that they're not doing good things to help fix their culture, but I find it almost annoying. It seems almost impossible to me that all this promotion is not coming from them directly..

There was a conference this morning. They announced a bunch of interesting newsworthy things within an hour. https://channel9.msdn.com/

Thanks for pointing that out. I do notice that the stories that do crop up to the top generally have to do with Microsoft open sourcing software, so in that sense the stories don't seem all that out of line with what I generally expect to see on front page of HN. But being a developer who remembers old Microsoft it's hard to accept them back into my life even if it is just a few links on a forum :)

The conference does add clarity. I'm surprised I hadn't heard about it before now.

EDIT: Just visited the channel9 live broadcast. "Scott Guthrie's Keynote" showed less than 700 views. The other keynote I looked at had less than 150 views, and the final keynote less than 100 views. I say good for Microsoft on all the changes they're making for the better, but the amount of promotion vs the amount of perceived interest do not appear to align when it comes to Microsoft and their work toward bringing developers into their ecosystem.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by sparkling »

smortaz wrote: post #142

We've been asked this by a few people, so I figured this is a good place to respond: Will PTVS (Python Tools for Visual Studio) come to VSCode? The answer is YES! This will be a major focus next year. Expect full intellisense, debugging, profiling, pkg mgmt, unit test, virtual env, multiple interpreter, Jupyter, etc. support. Disc: Python/R/Jupyter team lead https://www.visualstudio.com/features/python-vs

As a Python-lover: this is awesome. There is a need for something with good Python support in-between a full blown PyCharm and plain VIM

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by DHJSH »

stoolpigeon wrote: post #48
mkaziz wrote: post #21

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I'm actually a pretty hard core Linux user who avoids M'soft products when possible, but it's hard to deny I good IDE when I see one. I've never been able to navigate emacs/vim with ease, and sans them, I've never heard of a highly touted, Linux-friendly IDE.

I'm struggling to understand how you are a hard core Linux user yet you've never heard of a good Linux IDE. KDevelop? Eclipse? Netbeans? KomodoIDE? Anything from JetBrains? And I don't even know what might be available on the Gnome side. Then there are all the great editors that sit right on the verge of being IDEs once you configure - Kate, KomodoEdit, Sublime Text and so many more. Personally the look at VS Code ma…

Are you seriously comparing Eclipse to Visual Studio? I use both of them. Eclipse for CUDA programming, Visual Studio for everything else. There's no comparison. Eclipse is a buggy heap of crud. Visual Studio just works.
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