[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Syria
VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Besides, the hits were driven by politics, religion is just a facade. I wonder how can you call the main motivation of these jihadists 'just a facade'?
Because if their motivation was to spread Islam, there are better ways to do it.
Never mind.
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#64I work with a Muslim and I'm a Christian. Since we are both very conservative, I actually have more in common with him than with my secular coworkers and friends. Unfortunately we both work remotely and live several hundred miles from each other. I think we could be good friends if we lived closer. One thing I have learned talking with my Muslim coworker is that, just like in Christianity, there are many divisions an…
If you naively extrapolate from the 2013 Pew Poll The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society (which in principle represents nations with a total Muslim population of about 1 billion), 40% of these think you should be killed for leaving Islam.
To me, that's a scary number.
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#65Isn't it sad that this has to be said at all? "Hey, not every adherent of a religion supports killing innocent people of a different religion". It'd be like us having to apologize for the Crusades. Besides, the hits were driven by politics, religion is just a facade.
Whereas the Catholic Church has a singular leader (the Pope), there is no equivalent in Islam. That is, currently - historically, Caliphs have been religious and political leaders. ISIS claims to take up that throne now, but...
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#66Isn't current Syrian government also guilty of perpetrating acts of genocide against its own populace? This person is quick to denounce the other side, but Assad's forces have killed thousands of civilians as well. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Syria
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#67Isn't current Syrian government also guilty of perpetrating acts of genocide against its own populace? This person is quick to denounce the other side, but Assad's forces have killed thousands of civilians as well. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Syria
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#68I work with a Muslim and I'm a Christian. Since we are both very conservative, I actually have more in common with him than with my secular coworkers and friends. Unfortunately we both work remotely and live several hundred miles from each other. I think we could be good friends if we lived closer. One thing I have learned talking with my Muslim coworker is that, just like in Christianity, there are many divisions an…
How do you argue which definition is more correct than the other? By Historical precedence? By how we interpret the teachings? By popularity? It just seems like the definition of the religion itself is so amorphous that it is very susceptible to terminology hijacking.
Would it do the Muslim population more practical good if they started distancing themselves away from the term "Muslim" and called themselves something different to make the distinction more impactful in the eyes of the public?
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#69Isn't it sad that this has to be said at all? "Hey, not every adherent of a religion supports killing innocent people of a different religion". It'd be like us having to apologize for the Crusades. Besides, the hits were driven by politics, religion is just a facade.
Yes, suicide bombers shouting "Allah akhbar" is definitely political, nothing to do with religion at all.
Honestly, I'm starting to believe media is painting terrorism as religion issue on purpose - because it's easier to hate the other side if you can assume it's their faith that makes them want to hurt you. You don't have to consider the idea that they may have a valid point against us somewhere.
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#70I work with a Muslim and I'm a Christian. Since we are both very conservative, I actually have more in common with him than with my secular coworkers and friends. Unfortunately we both work remotely and live several hundred miles from each other. I think we could be good friends if we lived closer. One thing I have learned talking with my Muslim coworker is that, just like in Christianity, there are many divisions an…
Of course it's not "all Muslisms". But those who claim "it's only the terrorists" or "it's all politics" do not grasp the scope of the problem, ie that globally speaking, a significant number of adherents of Islam hold ideas that are incompatible with an open society. If you naively extrapolate from the 2013 Pew Poll The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society (which in principle represents nations with a tot…
Significant numbers of non-Islam subscribers hold ideas that are incompatible with an open society too. All these people have at least one thing in common: they would like to change society to suit their ends.
And a very large number of people in my country would happily throw back those fleeing the carnage to become victims of that 40%. Which in my opinion makes them just about as bad.