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Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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Isn't it sad that this has to be said at all? "Hey, not every adherent of a religion supports killing innocent people of a different religion". It'd be like us having to apologize for the Crusades. Besides, the hits were driven by politics, religion is just a facade.

Yes, suicide bombers shouting "Allah akhbar" is definitely political, nothing to do with religion at all.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be like us having to apologize for the Crusades. Just a nitpick, but Catholic church did apologize to muslims killed by the crusaders[0]. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologies_made_by_Pope...

It only took 800 years.

are you serious??? How long did it take for muslims representatives to say sorry about the invasions and conquest that led to the creation of crusades? I have yet to hear an apology.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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By writing that message, he's making himself a potential target of terror, especially now that this is on the front page of HN and could be picked up by mainstream media. For safety's sake, I hope he contributes to VLC under a pseudonym and not under his real name.

What you're communicating is essentially what "terrorists" are aiming to achieve and draw power from. Their attacks are targeted to maximize disruption of daily life and make people afraid of some unknown terror.

Better to continue life as you normally would, be alert, and to not give in to fear.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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> They control large areas of land, have their own oil fields, and receive direct support from many countries in the region. Namely from rich oil-producing countries. That's one of those things where we could make a fairly immediate change in policy, it would come at a cost, definitely but it would change the situation for IS for the worse far more effectively than any number of bombs dropped would do.

I don't see media speaking much about these countries that allows financing of ISIS. But if we want to eradicate ISIS, I too think we should deal with its financial sources first. Maybe because these countries are the same countries that western companies want to sell weapons to.

PBS Frontline did a fantastic documentary a few weeks ago on what it's like in Syria right now;

* http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/inside-assads-syria/

The folks interviewed in the video reflect many of the opinions wrote about by Salah-Eddin Shaban in the VLC email.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It only took 800 years.

are you serious??? How long did it take for muslims representatives to say sorry about the invasions and conquest that led to the creation of crusades? I have yet to hear an apology.

It doesn't matter to me what the other side of a conflict does, what matters to me is what my side of a conflict does. The fact that we don't descend to the level of our opponents gives us at least a moral edge, and it might even give us a real edge in the longer run. The moral high ground is one that you give up at your peril. Not that the Catholic church in particular has much moral high ground left but at least they did this, good for them.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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Isn't it sad that this has to be said at all? "Hey, not every adherent of a religion supports killing innocent people of a different religion". It'd be like us having to apologize for the Crusades. Besides, the hits were driven by politics, religion is just a facade.

> It'd be like us having to apologize for the Crusades.

Though It's probably something Western Christians should still bear in mind when talking to or about muslims.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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With the immigration crisis and the Paris attacks, it seems that people completely forgot the atrocities that these nutjobs commit in their own home countries. Perhaps it doesn't really matter to most westerners, but we shouldn't blame a billion people for the insanity of a small part of them. It's a crazy situation, for sure...

People intentionally forget. Terrorist attacks are a convenient excuse to not allow refugees fleeing from the full terror of ISIS. We get one Paris. They get Paris every single day.

Re: VLC contributor living in Aleppo writing about the Paris attacks

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By writing that message, he's making himself a potential target of terror, especially now that this is on the front page of HN and could be picked up by mainstream media. For safety's sake, I hope he contributes to VLC under a pseudonym and not under his real name.

What you're communicating is essentially what "terrorists" are aiming to achieve and draw power from. Their attacks are targeted to maximize disruption of daily life and make people afraid of some unknown terror. Better to continue life as you normally would, be alert, and to not give in to fear.

That's fairly easy to write in an air conditioned office somewhere in the west, but it was a pretty brave thing to do this right in the middle of the action.
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