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Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by caractacus »

bsimpson wrote: post #8

I've been told by people in the position to know that the 2010-era streaming services (Rdio, Spotify, Mog) were all effectively the same company: owned mostly by the music studios (in exchange for licenses) with a minority stake for each's particular founders/investors. As Dalton Caldwell cautioned in 2011, licensing costs make music startups are nigh impossible [1]. For people who are willing to pay for a music serv…

Your people in the know are wrong. The labels own a very small part of e.g. Spotify - around 5% - and the rest is VC and the founders. Deezer's IPO documents were clear on where the ownership of that service lies.

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by tallerholler »

jeremyrwelch wrote: post #116

Rdio made a mistake by trying to compete directly with Spotify. And Pandora is making a huge mistake by shutting down the service and losing a valuable niche group of users. Everyone I know who actually uses Rdio is DIE HARD (I see evidence of this in the comments too). The users I know are pro audio guys, musicians, programmers, artists, etc who use the app 6+ hours a day across desktop and mobile. Rdio could easily…

ever since I discovered rdio a year or so ago I am always telling friends etc.. I think their UI is superior and the experience is just better than e.g. pandora imo...

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by dom96 »

p0wnd wrote: post #13
JonFish85 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"There's not enough listeners for the number of music services. If your service stumbles, it's easy to move onto something else, so you really only get one or no chances to convince your potential customers." I agree, and even feel more strongly about it. Even if you don't stumble, it's hard to compete with Google and Apple at this point, because they have their services tightly tied in with their other products. Buy…

I won't switch from Spotify though because it meets my needs and furthermore they keep innovating. One thing I can look forward to in getting back to the office on Monday is my new week's playlist that Spotify creates for me. I listen to a wide variety of music and they have helped me discover a lot o f artists and songs I'm really into.

Totally agree. Spotify's weekly discover playlists have made me look forward to Mondays.

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by ehmorris »

ehmorris wrote: post #89

Does anyone know a good way of exporting my rdio "history" data? I have years of data in there.

Ah here's a solution: make a cURL request for all your history data.

Simple way to get a well formatted request:

* Go to the history tab (http://www.rdio.com/people/username/history/) and pull up the inspector

* Scroll down once or twice and go to the network tab

* Find the `getHistoryForUser` request and right-click it, select "copy as cURL"

* Paste into your editor and change the "start" param to 0 and the "count" param to 99999

* Make the cURL request. Boom, no rate limiting. I got 3.5mb of history (though it seems to only go back 1 year.

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by grimmfang »

zschallz wrote: post #113
archagon wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify also has a native(-ish) OSX client (can you use Google Music outside the browser?) and excellent playlist drag/drop and sharing support. Plus, I love their iOS user interface. No other service has come close in either area. I just wish they had better local file support.

I use gear music player for google music https://www.gearmusicplayer.com/ . It's fantastic (but not free).

What an incredible app. Just bought it!

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by agentdrtran »

_jomo wrote: post #88
smt88 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Google Play Music library is excellent (I think it's still the biggest). You could try something like this: http://bluestackstutorial.com/2015/07/google-play-music-for-...

Someone else just pointed out Google Play Music as well. Apparently it works in the Browser without Flash?

Yes, no flash needed.

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by PKop »

kbenson wrote: post #73
threeseed wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best is subjective. Google Music is definitely a great music store. For those wanting a social music experience Spotify is the "best". For those wanting curated music and a digital radio experience Apple Music is the "best". For those wanting a hands off service Pandora is the "best".

This make a lot of sense to me. Every time this discussion comes up, I'm stuck wondering what the hubbub is, since I've never wanted for anything more than Pandora. In fact, Pandora is perfect for me, since I very specifically do not want to curate my music at all beyond choosing a song, artist or genre and letting it pick stuff I might like. Letting me thumbs up/down stuff to get it better to my tastes is just gravy…

Check out Songza if you haven't already. Curated pre-defined stations by genre takes things even a step further than Pandora as far as not wanting to manually curate.

I find it the "easiest" music app to use because you just pick a channel and go.

It was purchased by Google a few years ago.

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by habizan »

tetraodonpuffer wrote: post #9

that is really unfortunate, I much prefer Rdio's web interface to Spotify's and for all the years I've been a subscriber it's been rock solid, on the other hand I do think I am likely not the typical user (100% on desktop, mostly listens to full albums rather than random songs, a lot of classical music, etc.) When Rdio shuts down I am really not sure where I will be able to go for a comparable experience, Spotify for…

I'm a Canadian and have been a happy user of Deezer for several years: http://deezer.com

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by bgentry »

ehmorris wrote: post #89

Does anyone know a good way of exporting my rdio "history" data? I have years of data in there.

this tweet (linked elsewhere in the thread) references a Chrome extension that lets you export any of your playlists or your entire collection to a CSV: https://twitter.com/frank_chimero/status/666373969394708481

Re: Pandora to Buy Rdio Assets for $75M, Rdio Files Ch.11, Will Shutter Service

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Post by bsimpson »

caractacus wrote: post #121
bsimpson wrote: post #8

I've been told by people in the position to know that the 2010-era streaming services (Rdio, Spotify, Mog) were all effectively the same company: owned mostly by the music studios (in exchange for licenses) with a minority stake for each's particular founders/investors. As Dalton Caldwell cautioned in 2011, licensing costs make music startups are nigh impossible [1]. For people who are willing to pay for a music serv…

Your people in the know are wrong. The labels own a very small part of e.g. Spotify - around 5% - and the rest is VC and the founders. Deezer's IPO documents were clear on where the ownership of that service lies.

Sadly the edit window has passed for that comment. Apologies for spreading old/erroneous information.
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