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When I stopped hearing the voices in my head

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Re: When I stopped hearing the voices in my head

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I have this thing where I wake up at 5:00 AM and my internal monologue sounds like someone twisting the tuning knob back and forth on a radio. Anyone know a name for that?

It could be hypnagogia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

If you're waking up it's a hypnopompic state (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnopompic).

Re: When I stopped hearing the voices in my head

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Book: "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)#Brea... Theory: The brain has two hemispheres: One does the talking and one does the listening. Sometimes we react because the "self" is the last to know or just reacts not realizing it is a self evaluation below our awareness. (Dog goes to bite your hand and you react.) We then try to…

The Bicameral-Mind theorist apparently claimed that before 3,000 years ago all/most people behaved as the article's author, receiving direction and correction from externally perceived voices. Only at some point around that time did people become meta-aware, conscious of their own thoughts.

Re: When I stopped hearing the voices in my head

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Book: "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)#Brea... Theory: The brain has two hemispheres: One does the talking and one does the listening. Sometimes we react because the "self" is the last to know or just reacts not realizing it is a self evaluation below our awareness. (Dog goes to bite your hand and you react.) We then try to…

And it also inspired some of the concepts in Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash".

Re: When I stopped hearing the voices in my head

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I have this thing where I wake up at 5:00 AM and my internal monologue sounds like someone twisting the tuning knob back and forth on a radio. Anyone know a name for that?

Kind of a horrifying cacophony? Mind is racing but unfocused, and you can't force it to focus? Makes it difficult to go back to sleep? Yeah, I get that every so often. Every couple months, maybe. No idea what it might be called.

I think have that multiple times a week; almost feels like a waterfall in my head. Sometimes a song gets stuck in my head, and I just hum it until I'm "done waking up".

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I often have intense fantasies about conversations with personal mentors, historical figures and/or deities (what would Buddha say? How about Einstein? etc). Obviously I can't reproduce their thoughts, but knowing a little about them, I can try to think like them Surely they're not as visceral or reflexive as the author's voices. But I have always found value in empathizing with fantasized mentors, which has given me…

I sometimes talk to myself or to hypothetical instances of other people I know. I try to do this quietly at times since I know it might not be perceived favorably by others. Mainly I do this to verbally externalize thoughts and force them back into my auditory memory (deliberately), hopefully reinforcing or bolstering a position I want to take or a course of action I need to take later.

I hope I never lose track that I am initiating those conversations...I'm old enough to be well past the standard age for developing schizophrenia...but if I did lose track, I at least have my atheism to fall back upon and my memory of having read through Jaynes a couple of times.

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I often have intense fantasies about conversations with personal mentors, historical figures and/or deities (what would Buddha say? How about Einstein? etc). Obviously I can't reproduce their thoughts, but knowing a little about them, I can try to think like them Surely they're not as visceral or reflexive as the author's voices. But I have always found value in empathizing with fantasized mentors, which has given me…

There's that Hofstadterian notion that empathy consists of spawning a VM in your brain and running a simulation of another person in it, which sounds not unlike what you are describing.

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Kind of a horrifying cacophony? Mind is racing but unfocused, and you can't force it to focus? Makes it difficult to go back to sleep? Yeah, I get that every so often. Every couple months, maybe. No idea what it might be called.

I think have that multiple times a week; almost feels like a waterfall in my head. Sometimes a song gets stuck in my head, and I just hum it until I'm "done waking up".

Oof, the times when it's one or more songs are the worst. I'd forgotten about that one.

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I think have that multiple times a week; almost feels like a waterfall in my head. Sometimes a song gets stuck in my head, and I just hum it until I'm "done waking up".

Oof, the times when it's one or more songs are the worst . I'd forgotten about that one.

But isn't that just called 'having a song stuck in your head?'

I almost always have a song running in the background, never the same, but I wake up to a song and I go to sleep with a song.

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I often have intense fantasies about conversations with personal mentors, historical figures and/or deities (what would Buddha say? How about Einstein? etc). Obviously I can't reproduce their thoughts, but knowing a little about them, I can try to think like them Surely they're not as visceral or reflexive as the author's voices. But I have always found value in empathizing with fantasized mentors, which has given me…

You're essentially creating what some people have taken to referring as "tulpas".

http://www.meltingasphalt.com/neurons-gone-wild/

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