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Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

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Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

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Unfortunately, no. I use Linux on a daily basis on my desktop, and while it's great for development (if you develop for Linux), it sucks for everything else (compared to Windows, for example). > Linux is now a viable gaming platform, thanks in large part to the efforts of Valve and GOG.com. Six of the top ten games on Steam right now support Linux. No. Look at the most recent SteamOS/PC review from Ars: http://arstec…

I agree with you so much. The last time I had an experience where I thought my computer ran *nix really well, it was a Celeron 500 Thinkpad X21 with OpenBSD. I have not had sound work as well before or since (next best? IRIX with an Octane2.)

My work dev box is a CentOS 6 PoS and while it's serviceable and works OK for dev, I have a windows VM for a reason and my personal macbook comes out often.

Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

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Well, I followed the link to /r/unixporn and was amused to see that most of the screenshots (described as "at least on par with any other operating system") look like people desperately trying to recreate "The Matrix". I mean, sure, people on HN probably really do find evilwm a great productivity boost, but I'm pretty sure my mother wouldn't.

Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

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I agree, I love Fedora 23 and Gnome, except for those 2-3 times a month I actually need to print a document and do not have 7 hours to spare....

Printing is so much easier to do on Linux than on Windows now. I think at some point a group of people must have decided that they weren't going to be the butt of any more jokes about printing, and decided to completely fix it.

Setting up my home printer under Windows takes me the best part of 30 minutes every single time I need to do it. Under Linux its detected automatically, and works first time.

Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Linux as my primary desktop OS for about 15 years, and sound has always been a pain to deal with. I used S/PDIF on my last machine, and it took me months of browsing through endless threads to get the thing to work properly. Skype just won't play any sound as of my last install, I have no idea why, I've given up on it. To get my last monitor to work properly, I had to manually enter modelines in xorg.…

IIRC I remedied my Skype installation by uncommenting the hardware detection modules (udev and static) in default.pa(5). You could try starting it from the apulse shim, alternatively. I'll agree PulseAudio is esoteric, but thankfully not that many client applications have a hard dependency on it, though it is popular with integrated DEs.

Thanks for the Skype tip, I'll try that.

But the fact that I need a tip on HN to know which config files to edit to get Skype working is precisely why Linux on the Desktop isn't quite there yet :)

(the fault may very well lie with Skype, but from a user experience standpoint, that's irrelevant)

Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

#38
post #9

I agree, I love Fedora 23 and Gnome, except for those 2-3 times a month I actually need to print a document and do not have 7 hours to spare....

I was actually impressed by GNOME the last time I had to print. It found the required driver in seconds, downloaded it in a few instants, and I was ready to print. Compared to Windows where I had to search during half an hour the driver on the HP website and it installed 350 megabytes of crapware. (of course it's not the same experience for all printers, my 15 years old printer works perfectly on Windows and Linux, a…

The high water mark of Linux printers was the HP Laserjet 4...

Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

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With (at least currently) the worst security model of them all. Yay!

Not really, at least Linux has formal-ish model of how processes are supposed to interact. The Windows security model starts badly plus about 10 000 special cases that aren't documented where you will trip various heuristics only there in the first place because Windows does not have a good security model to begin with. All this to enable people do download shareware from the internet, run it and have it probably not own the users PC.

Re: Linux has matured into a robust desktop operating system

#40

Unfortunately, no. I use Linux on a daily basis on my desktop, and while it's great for development (if you develop for Linux), it sucks for everything else (compared to Windows, for example). > Linux is now a viable gaming platform, thanks in large part to the efforts of Valve and GOG.com. Six of the top ten games on Steam right now support Linux. No. Look at the most recent SteamOS/PC review from Ars: http://arstec…

I agree with you so much. The last time I had an experience where I thought my computer ran *nix really well, it was a Celeron 500 Thinkpad X21 with OpenBSD. I have not had sound work as well before or since (next best? IRIX with an Octane2.) My work dev box is a CentOS 6 PoS and while it's serviceable and works OK for dev, I have a windows VM for a reason and my personal macbook comes out often.

Also in agreement here. Actually, the last time I had a really well *nix system is when I had a MacMini :-) This sounds like a cynical remark, but it is a true.
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