Saudi clerics declare Isis terrorism a 'heinous crime' under sharia law (2014)

Post by ceejayoz » Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 1:16 PM UTC

dlss wrote: post #26

ceejayoz wrote: post #25

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> The survey we're discussing was "can suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets to defend Islam could be justified". Note "against civilian targets". I'd reiterate that Americans believe that themselves. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/04/70-years-aft... > [T]he share of Americans who believe the use of nuclear weapons was justified is now 56%, with 34% saying it was not.

> I'd reiterate that Americans believe that themselves. You really don't see the difference? Americans justify the use of nukes on the basis of the war being just. For example, if we'd nuked Japan because we thought sushi was an abomination, approval of our use of nukes would plummet. If we'd nuked Japan after the war, approval would plummet. If we killed Japaneese Americans rather than Japaneese, approval would plum…

Post by nzp » Thu, Nov 19, 2015, 4:54 PM UTC

azth wrote: post #32

nzp wrote: post #15

ISIS is not doing anything the Saudi regime isn't doing in terms of oppression. They are rivals, thus the declaration. If ISIS claim of caliphate is legitimate under Islamic law, then the Saudi regime isn't (or any other Muslim regime for that matter). Furthermore, ISIS ideologues have spoken openly about the fact that the Saudi regime implements only one side of Sharia, the punitive side, leaving the mandatory socia…

> If ISIS claim of caliphate is legitimate under Islamic law, then the Saudi regime isn't (or any other Muslim regime for that matter). This is not how it works out. Please don't make assumptions about issues which you don't know about.