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> No one can come to my desk to socialize Yeah who would want that? I've done both and both have their pros and cons, socializing is definitely a perk and introvert or extrovert should not be underestimated in keeping you healthy and happy and a skilled professional.
If you get your work done more efficiently, you actually have more time to socialize, with the people of your choosing. Also, socializing in the workplace tends to be very superficial, because you're extremely limited in the range of topics you can discuss. God forbid that you say something unprofessional.
Working remotely is hard
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#72Working remotely is excellent. 1.5 hours less commuting - that's more time to get work done or go to the gym or read the news. No one can come to my desk to socialize or ask a quick question to fuck up my flow. No one requiring me to arrive at an office at an arbitrarily early time. No dress code. No ad hoc meetings in the conference room. Listening to music I like aloud. All conf calls done on speaker. I'm home to r…
Eating home cooked food fresh instead of microwaving it
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#73I wouldn't work remotely even if you gave me 25% more salary to do it. My ideal work context would be a six hour day at an office in the city that I can walk to from my condo. Sit-stand desks, balance-ball chairs, decent coffee, but no catered lunch / dinner. I want to take coworkers or dates out. Preferably with a nearby park that I can take walks in. Sit at home with a computer all day? Sounds too much like solitar…
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#74There are two components to successful remote work: it has to work for the employee, and for the company. Obviously, how well it works depends not only on the particulars of the arrangement, but on the specific employee (introvert, extrovert, etc.) and the specific company (type of product, type of role, other employees, etc.) "Remote work is terrible" and "Remote work is The Way" are gross oversimplifications that a…
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#75I wouldn't work remotely even if you gave me 25% more salary to do it. My ideal work context would be a six hour day at an office in the city that I can walk to from my condo. Sit-stand desks, balance-ball chairs, decent coffee, but no catered lunch / dinner. I want to take coworkers or dates out. Preferably with a nearby park that I can take walks in. Sit at home with a computer all day? Sounds too much like solitar…
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#76Working remotely is excellent. 1.5 hours less commuting - that's more time to get work done or go to the gym or read the news. No one can come to my desk to socialize or ask a quick question to fuck up my flow. No one requiring me to arrive at an office at an arbitrarily early time. No dress code. No ad hoc meetings in the conference room. Listening to music I like aloud. All conf calls done on speaker. I'm home to r…
Not being interrupted and everybody defaulting to using e-mail for communications has to be the best benefit of it besides not having to commute.
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#77I'm the CTO of 17hats. The entire engineering team works remotely. It's not as challenging as you seem to suggest. Right now is the best time ever to be remote. Excellent tools like Slack and Speak really help comms. We pair program very often by sshing into a tmux session which makes any lag close to nil. We use Trello for sprints. And Invision for product work. It's extremely efficient. We have our usual retrospect…
Here are some: communication, loneliness, isolation, timezones, discipline It's really great that working remotely (anecdotally) works well for your team. It also doesn't work well for some folks. Like any other approach to business, YMMV, but discounting the disadvantages that have been enumerated for you is explicitly ignoring the fact that some people, including those who are top performing employees in their fiel…
Managing a distributed workforce, definitely has challenges. From what I have seen, onboarding new employees can be particularly awkward. It may be different in hip, new startups, but in my experience with less fashionable, old school organizations, it makes accountability, knowledge-sharing and organizational-political navigation more challenging.
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#78Several companies later, I find it actually difficult to work in an office environment. I'm not a hermit or even a strong introvert. I enjoy the company of other people from all walks of life, but there are so many distractions in an office environment that prevents me from doing my best work. As a Technical Operations engineer (SysEng, DevOps, SRE, or buzzword-dujour), most of my work is contemplative and best performed away from a keyboard. At home, I am free to work while running, walking, or sitting in the bathtub (TMI) with no fear of judgement from my peers. When I do need access to someone, I have a variety of tools at my disposal to suit the required latency and interactivity of the conversation.
Plus, pants are optional and slippers are the prescribed footware.
There are always challenges, though. For me, strict enforcement of work hours is a must. Sometimes I still get in the zone, lose track of time and work late, but usually I sit down around 9AM and take off around 5-6PM. Otherwise, work takes over my life and I end up neglecting my responsibilities as a husband, father, and homeowner. I am lucky to have a wife who understands my work boundaries and children who have never known a father who leaves the house for work each day. "Daddy is working" is enough for them to get them out of my office. Oddly, I grew up in a similar environment, as my father worked from a home office when I was a kid.
The biggest challenge for me has been while working for a medium-sized (1000+ employee) company in a Director role for a mostly colocated company. As an individual contributor, communication with my team and boss is relatively easy, but as a leader it is incredibly difficult to inject myself into important conversations via chat and email when those people are literally sitting next to each other. Having trusted "spies" within the organization that will keep their ears open and report back is a must or else you end up completely out of the loop.
Having worked primarily at colocated companies where I'm in the minority as a remote employee, I'm very excited to be joining an established remote first company next year and seeing how they do it in the "big leagues."
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#79I'd like to see some analysis of this from the employer's side. By which I mean, how does it affect you as a manager when you have reports that work remotely? Personally I have observed that some people who work remotely suffer from delusions as to what happens in the office when they're not there. They'll scoff at the lack of progress of the office workers, compared to their own majestic productivity - ignoring the…
Counterpoint: the remote workers I've worked with don't do any of the things you mentioned.
I personally think that colocation is the preferred way to perform work. Remote development environments require a conscious attention to the tools, practices, and culture. It is far simpler from a management perspective to be colocated.