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Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#11

Post by blubbi2 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #8
diggan wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's fine as it is. Could have chosen a worse name for sure! And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways...

> And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways... Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Still better to avoid names with negative connotations (and search for them first to check). > Any suggestions are more than welcome! A few ideas: bpm - Better Package Manager edge - the thing that connects nodes jpm - Javascript Package Manager ppm - Peer P…

As I said earlier, it wasn't my intention to name it after a weapon.

That being said, it's a three letter name. It's very unlikely NOT to run into naming conflicts here.

edge - taken by Microsoft

jpm - JPMorgan

ppm - taken by Perl package manager: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_package_manager

fpm - taken by Effing package management: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm

bpm - beats per minute

ayp - terrible to type, although taken by "Adequate Yearly Progress": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adequate_Yearly_Progress

nnm - What happens when it's no longer new?

Just in Germany for example there are a ton of companies called ISIS (just google "ISIS GmbH"). Being offended by a three letter shell command seems a bit over the top to me to be honest.

Edit: I won't respond to further comments on the naming issue. It wasn't my intention to name it after a weapon. As I said earlier, I will change the name as soon as anyone proposes a better one.

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#13

Post by jacquesm »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #10
JoshTriplett wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways... Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Still better to avoid names with negative connotations (and search for them first to check). > Any suggestions are more than welcome! A few ideas: bpm - Better Package Manager edge - the thing that connects nodes jpm - Javascript Package Manager ppm - Peer P…

Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Oh, lay off the holier-than-thou moral outrage. I bet you could mine for naming collisions in a space of three characters like this all day, or really all sorts of project names.

With two letters it gets even better. I was offered ss.com but passed, later I thought I should have taken it and turned it into a site documenting the atrocities committed by the SS and to strongly attack neo-nazis by showing them for what they are. Missed opportunity.

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#14

Post by diggan »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #8
diggan wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's fine as it is. Could have chosen a worse name for sure! And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways...

> And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways... Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Still better to avoid names with negative connotations (and search for them first to check). > Any suggestions are more than welcome! A few ideas: bpm - Better Package Manager edge - the thing that connects nodes jpm - Javascript Package Manager ppm - Peer P…

I don't think the name is supposed to be funny. If you're afraid of naming things something just because someone, somewhere in the world have been affected by what you're naming your thing, you'll run out of names.

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#15

Post by JoshTriplett »

blubbi2 wrote: post #11
JoshTriplett wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways... Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Still better to avoid names with negative connotations (and search for them first to check). > Any suggestions are more than welcome! A few ideas: bpm - Better Package Manager edge - the thing that connects nodes jpm - Javascript Package Manager ppm - Peer P…

As I said earlier, it wasn't my intention to name it after a weapon. That being said, it's a three letter name. It's very unlikely NOT to run into naming conflicts here. edge - taken by Microsoft jpm - JPMorgan ppm - taken by Perl package manager: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_package_manager fpm - taken by Effing package management: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm bpm - beats per minute ayp - terrible to ty…

> That being said, it's a three letter name. It's very unlikely NOT to run into naming conflicts here.

It isn't critical to avoid all possible naming conflicts, only to avoid 1) other command-line tools and 2) names in poor taste. Thus, only the conflicts with other package managers really matter.

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#16

Post by vezzy-fnord »

jacquesm wrote: post #13
vezzy-fnord wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Oh, lay off the holier-than-thou moral outrage. I bet you could mine for naming collisions in a space of three characters like this all day, or really all sorts of project names.

With two letters it gets even better. I was offered ss.com but passed, later I thought I should have taken it and turned it into a site documenting the atrocities committed by the SS and to strongly attack neo-nazis by showing them for what they are. Missed opportunity.

SS can just as easily be ss(8), Social Security, Secret Service (actually called USSS to deliberately avoid that), etc.

man 8 ss tells me it was written by Alexey Kuznetosv. I should strongly consider informing him of his trivialization of the NSDAP's atrocities.

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#17

Post by solipsism »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #10
JoshTriplett wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways... Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Still better to avoid names with negative connotations (and search for them first to check). > Any suggestions are more than welcome! A few ideas: bpm - Better Package Manager edge - the thing that connects nodes jpm - Javascript Package Manager ppm - Peer P…

Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Oh, lay off the holier-than-thou moral outrage. I bet you could mine for naming collisions in a space of three characters like this all day, or really all sorts of project names.

holier-than-thou moral outrage? He or she is just expressing an opinion that happens to differ from yours.

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#18

Post by xixixao »

inopinatus wrote: post #9
JoshTriplett wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And, managing dependencies is like dealing with explosives anyways... Only funny for anyone who hasn't been affected by one, or had friends or family who were. Still better to avoid names with negative connotations (and search for them first to check). > Any suggestions are more than welcome! A few ideas: bpm - Better Package Manager edge - the thing that connects nodes jpm - Javascript Package Manager ppm - Peer P…

yanm

yapm

Re: Show HN: ied – an alternative package manager for Node

#20

Post by blubbi2 »

drinchev wrote: post #12

That seems so cool. One question is how compatible is with npm? Can I use it as a drop-in replacement ( talking about the CLI tool )?

Mostly, yes, but there are some features that are still missing:

`ied publish` and `ied version` is coming next week. I'm also thinking of adding scoped modules, but I'm not sure about that yet.

You can also configure a private npm registry to be used: https://github.com/alexanderGugel/ied/blob/master/lib/config...

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