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Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

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Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

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post #10

And yet Apple recently forced f.lux to take down the sideloaded version of their iOS app despite the fact that they have no public APIs available to do what f.lux does. See here: https://justgetflux.com/sideload/#notanymore HN Posting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10556375

I haven't done any mobile development, so forgive my ignorance. But the concept of a program not being "allowed" on my device is bizarre to me.

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

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I don't understand why Google hasn't implemented this yet. It's easy to do that and has a huge value. I always had to root my phone just to do this.

Dictating what is "easy to do" is an insult to software producers everywhere. If you'd like to know more about how "simple" things can take lots of effort to deploy in heavily-used production software, consider reading Raymond Chen's Old New Thing blog for a while.

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

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While I do think my Mac is overly blue, I also think that f.lux is ridiculously yellow. I've turned down the yellowness considerably compared to the defaults, and still find myself turning it off in the evening, because suddenly everything becomes washy yellow.

If you allow your eyes to adapt, the yellowness really isn’t a big deal, unless you’re doing something color sensitive like making art. Just stop worrying about precisely what colors are on screen. Even if you’re casually looking at photographs, watching a television show, or playing a game, your eyes can compensate pretty well for a significant reduction in the amount of blue light, and you can have a perfectly acce…

I find f.lux unusable for quite a few TV shows on Netflix on my Macbook. I don't have an issue with the colours, but it introduces artefacts in very bright areas which are really annoying. Sure I probably shouldn't watch Netflix before bed, and I don't when I need to be up early etc., and I probably could fiddle with settings to fix it - but it is noticeable and annoying.

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

#44
post #16

It's called the power off button? Seriously, what is wrong with people, turn the thing off. Future "news": Food needs to stop being so tasty so people don't eat too much.

I and most of my acquaintances no longer have a traditional landline phone. My smartphone is the only way to contact me in an emergency. If friends or family need to reach me to extricate them from a bad situation or come to the hospital, etc., I want to be reachable. It's only happened a few times in my life, thankfully, but I don't like the idea of being completely unreachable until I wake up and turn my phone back on.

That said, I could turn off wifi and cellular data, but that's one more thing to remember to do every night. I suppose if you find the temptation overwhelming, it could be worth it though.

My point is just that turning off the phone is not as simple of a decision as you make it sound.

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

#46
post #23

Or people just need to put the phone down before going to sleep. Every non-infantile responsible adult is capable of that. How hard can it be ?

I sometimes like to read a book before going to sleep: it's always been a nice, calming activity for me. I also sometimes read books on my phone, and I think that's probably going to become more common (for me and in general) over time. Which of those is the "infantile, irresponsible" part?

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

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post #2

Anybody know if f.lux is working on an Android version? Their FAQ is mute on the issue.

There is something like f.lux for Android. It's called Twilight.

Twilight seems less thorough than f.lux and more like a simple filter. When f.luxs runs on my desktop, the blacks are still black. On Twilight, they get a red tint to them.

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

#48
post #8

For Linux users I can highly recommend Redshift[1]. The color temperature settings seem to differ some from f.lux but everything else works great! [1] http://jonls.dk/redshift/

Not just for Linux users: If you are using f.lux on windows but wish that you could control the temperate on demand (rather than it being automatic according to the current time) switch to Redshift and don't look back.

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

#49
post #45

My brain must be wired up differently, but the best way for me to fall asleep is by watching youtube videos on my iPad. When I'm sufficiently tired, it's a matter of minutes before I'm asleep.

I believe that discovery was made decades ago, given the stories I've come across of people who fell asleep to 'The Late Show' with Carson, back when that was the last broadcast of the day.

Ahh, here are two links which mention those days: http://www.salon.com/2014/02/18/how_jimmy_fallon_and_the_roo... and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/w... .

Re: Phones need 'bed mode' to protect sleep

#50
post #16

It's called the power off button? Seriously, what is wrong with people, turn the thing off. Future "news": Food needs to stop being so tasty so people don't eat too much.

I and most of my acquaintances no longer have a traditional landline phone. My smartphone is the only way to contact me in an emergency. If friends or family need to reach me to extricate them from a bad situation or come to the hospital, etc., I want to be reachable. It's only happened a few times in my life, thankfully, but I don't like the idea of being completely unreachable until I wake up and turn my phone back…

touching "airplane mode" is too hard for you?

it's a pull down, one click if you set it up right

also, some phones with 5.1 or 6.0 can change modes automatically depending on time of day and can turn off mobile data and wifi - you can leave voice enabled for "emergencies"

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