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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.

What do people think the refugees were running away from? Exactly these people.

Unfortunately, they bring the thing they are running away from, with them. Their backward culture.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…

Not all craziness is preventable by a security system.

That might be the case, but this particular strain of craziness was well-publicised and even experienced less than a year ago in the same place. One would expect some antibodies would have been developed by now, especially considering that French foreign policy is not getting any softer.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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post #30
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…

> Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective. How can a country possibly prevent these things while still maintaining a free society?

> How can a country possibly prevent these things while still maintaining a free society?

You can't even prevent them when not being a free society. Its not like terrorism only occurs in free societies.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Three Emergency protocols activated tonight to deal with the situation:

Plan multi attentats: Sudden surge of multiple situations

Plan blanc (in Île de France): surge of unpredictable activity of a hospital

Plan rouge: when there are significant casualties in a small area

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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post #22

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No, the number of innocent killed people is never irrelevant. Every single dead person is one dead person too much. Full stop. Edit: no need to further downvote as parent has changed his statement. Thanks parent poster.

Of course. But by the same reasoning, there is no difference if there were 1 or 118 victims, which is my point. It's not about keeping score.

If you agree that the number is not irrelevant, it would be very kind of you to revoke that statement. It's an insult to the dead and to the families of the dead. Thank you.

Edit: no need to further downvote as parent has changed his statement. Thanks parent poster.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.

I believe that France didn't open its borders to this wave of refugees/migrants but I could be mistaken since I don't follow the news this closely.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

118 inside the theater and 40 in other locations in and around Paris

itele says 118 total with around 80 in the bataclan

Watching iTele now too, numbers 40 or 80 aren't confirmed yet.

EDIT: 40 confirmed.

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