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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Post by toyg »

po1nter wrote: post #2

According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(

Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria).

The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack without being preempted, in a situation of maximum alert, will heavy on the minds of any French citizen regardless of whether victims were 118 or 119. Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective. That is a huge problem.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Post by chinathrow »

toyg wrote: post #11
po1nter wrote: post #2

According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(

Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…

No, the number of innocent killed people is never irrelevant. Every single dead person is one dead person too much. Full stop.

Edit: no need to further downvote as parent has changed his statement. Thanks parent poster.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Post by hyperliner »

toyg wrote: post #11
po1nter wrote: post #2

According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(

Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…

Not all craziness is preventable by a security system.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

jmspring wrote: post #13

The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.

Indeed. I'm sure a bunch of dipshits are already claiming that this is what happens when you allow Muslims into your country, somehow. Gonna wind up hurting a lot more innocent people.

Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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Post by electromage »

toyg wrote: post #11
po1nter wrote: post #2

According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(

Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…

It's relevant to the families and friends of those killed.
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