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Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by jancborchardt »

Mooty wrote: post #25

Not open source but still very usefull and self hosted : http://plex.tv Ampache is cool but is really heavy for a simple hosting. Plex does movies and tv shows sort too. Place a Transmission / Deluge torrent client behind, you have a true media center, on a little server. Owncloud is cool but very buggy !

Hey Mooty, nice that you like ownCloud. However, »very buggy« is not very specific. It would be cool if you could open actual issues in our tracker at https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/ so we can actually fix it.

Thanks! :)

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by jancborchardt »

vincentkriek wrote: post #2

Although this is a nice write up about a possible setup for self hosted alternatives for popular cloud services, I don't like it. It falls short to compare the different possible services and the possibilities you can have with them. OwnCloud is nice, but why should I pick on OwnCloud and not SeaFile. Ampache is cool, but why not Subsonic? I would like to read the reasoning behind the individual choices OR the reason…

ownCloud designer here – thanks a lot for the kind words! We’re also about to improve the web interfaces for Calendar and Contacts in coming ownCloud versions.

Also, I’m glad you like the Mail app although it’s in a very early stage! If you experience any issues or have feature requests, please let us know at https://github.com/owncloud/mail/issues :)

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by NoGravitas »

tombrossman wrote: post #4
vincentkriek wrote: post #2

Although this is a nice write up about a possible setup for self hosted alternatives for popular cloud services, I don't like it. It falls short to compare the different possible services and the possibilities you can have with them. OwnCloud is nice, but why should I pick on OwnCloud and not SeaFile. Ampache is cool, but why not Subsonic? I would like to read the reasoning behind the individual choices OR the reason…

I've installed and abandoned ownCloud several times, mostly because it is far too heavy for what I need and I had concerns about its security. I also had to set up EncFS on my local machines for client-side encryption of sensitive files because there was no way I was trusting that to ownCloud server-side. It took more work to set up but I have Seafile self-hosted on the smallest DigitalOcean VPS and it works beautifu…

I run ownCloud, despite some reservations about its security. I'm not too concerned about the data in ownCloud itself (if it's private, then I encrypt it client-side, but most things I put in ownCloud are not very private). I'm more concerned about it being used as a launching point for an attack on my home server. As a kind of compromise, I'm running it in a VM.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by MaximillianII »

rdlecler1 wrote: post #53

Real question for self hosters: what kinds of applications are you running where you feel you need this?

I use Seafile to synchronize my personal files with those of my wife on several machines. I need it because i don't want to depend on 3rd parties such as Dropbox. Also, I don't know how many Gbs I'd get for free with Dropbox. Probably less that I have with my current setup (1Tb). Not sure if this answers your question, though.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by edent »

rdlecler1 wrote: post #53

Real question for self hosters: what kinds of applications are you running where you feel you need this?

Only speaking for myself...

OwnCloud - I just don't trust an American company to host my data. Now, is my small UK based host as likely to be as effective at protecting my data as DropBox? Maybe not - but they don't have a proponent of torture on their board, so it's swings and roundabouts.

TT-RSS - I couldn't find a decent RSS manager which I liked. TT does the job - and I'm not worried that someone will decide that Google+ is better and force me off.

Ampache - all of my music is stored as FLAC, which can be a PITA to transcode and/or stream. This sits on a box at home and I can listen to my music wherever I am. I'm not reliant on a corporation who might decide that my music isn't licensed correctly, or they don't want to support my hardware, etc.

Personally I use WordPress rather than Ghost - it's more flexible for my needs.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by tombrossman »

LukasReschke wrote: post #47
tombrossman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Did you host OwnCloud yourself? Yes, I prefer to self-host anything I can. I'm lucky to have a gigabit FTTH connection and moving lots of data around is no problem. I still prefer to use a remote VPS because some things are best left to the pros. > But you didn't trust the software with your files? In what way is the SeaFile solution you are running now more trustworthy? Seafile has a much smaller attack surface (n…

> Seafile has a much smaller attack surface (no PHP, MySQL not required, etc) ownCloud does run a successful Bug Bounty program and is paying for security bugs: https://hackerone.com/owncloud Also I have published a blog post elaborating why CVEs are not everything when it comes to comparing the security of products: https://statuscode.ch/2015/09/ownCloud-security-development-... Furthermore please take a look at htt…

Thanks, good to know.

The ownCloud Android client required duplicate copies of all the photos & videos (the original plus a copy in the ownCloud folder) which filled up storage on my phone too quickly. Once this is sorted I might try it again, even if only for the calendar and contacts. It has many features but I just don't need most of them.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by jancborchardt »

tombrossman wrote: post #57
LukasReschke wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seafile has a much smaller attack surface (no PHP, MySQL not required, etc) ownCloud does run a successful Bug Bounty program and is paying for security bugs: https://hackerone.com/owncloud Also I have published a blog post elaborating why CVEs are not everything when it comes to comparing the security of products: https://statuscode.ch/2015/09/ownCloud-security-development-... Furthermore please take a look at htt…

Thanks, good to know. The ownCloud Android client required duplicate copies of all the photos & videos (the original plus a copy in the ownCloud folder) which filled up storage on my phone too quickly. Once this is sorted I might try it again, even if only for the calendar and contacts. It has many features but I just don't need most of them.

There is a pull request with a fix for the Android issue you describe: https://github.com/owncloud/android/pull/1168 Would be very helpful if you can test it! :)

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by jancborchardt »

And by the way, ownCloud also has a News reader: https://apps.owncloud.com/content/show.php/News?content=1680... (we’re working on a redesign of the appstore, don’t worry ;)

There’s apps for Android & iOS which download all items for offline reading. The Android app can even download podcasts and videos of Youtube channels.

There’s also apps for OS X, Linux, Firefox OS, Blackberry and Jolla as far as I know.

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