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Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by vincentkriek »

Although this is a nice write up about a possible setup for self hosted alternatives for popular cloud services, I don't like it. It falls short to compare the different possible services and the possibilities you can have with them. OwnCloud is nice, but why should I pick on OwnCloud and not SeaFile. Ampache is cool, but why not Subsonic?

I would like to read the reasoning behind the individual choices OR the reasoning behind the overall choice of moving a way from big corp products.

It feels to much like a "look at my setup" posts, which are nice to read but it could be much better.

But, my input now:

OwnCloud is wonderful for file syncing but where it really shines is the contact and calendar sync. It is the easiest to install and best accessable web interface Cal/CardDAV software out there. Radicale is a wonderfull little python Cal/CardDAV server but it hasn't got a web interface which is a feature I do miss when I don't have it. OwnCloud is really pulling through on the whole "google replacement", work has been started on a mail client which looks very nice and works decently (for now).

Ampache is cool but I found the installation to be too fiddly and easy to break. It could be my incompetence with that product but I prefer subsonic. A java product which just runs and it runs well. The webinterface desperately needs a good UIoverall but it works and it doesn't get in the way.

RocketChat I don't know and I should look into but I do feel that XMPP should be the chat replacement for all. The fedearation, the gazillion clients and the maturity of the software is just so so nice that I am sad that it isn't more popular. I feel it's a huge shame google and facebook stopped fedarating their xmpp services.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by tombrossman »

vincentkriek wrote: post #2

Although this is a nice write up about a possible setup for self hosted alternatives for popular cloud services, I don't like it. It falls short to compare the different possible services and the possibilities you can have with them. OwnCloud is nice, but why should I pick on OwnCloud and not SeaFile. Ampache is cool, but why not Subsonic? I would like to read the reasoning behind the individual choices OR the reason…

I've installed and abandoned ownCloud several times, mostly because it is far too heavy for what I need and I had concerns about its security. I also had to set up EncFS on my local machines for client-side encryption of sensitive files because there was no way I was trusting that to ownCloud server-side.

It took more work to set up but I have Seafile self-hosted on the smallest DigitalOcean VPS and it works beautifully. $5/month, plenty of space for the amount of files I need to sync across machines, and my data is in Germany which is great (I'm in Europe). Native client-side encryption is built-in to the client so I have an easier configuration on local machines, and it does most of what I need.

I'm still looking for a good self-hosted CalDAV/CardDAV option that doesn't require PHP or MySQL, but as this data is less sensitive I'm happy to trust it to FastMail for now.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by vincentkriek »

tombrossman wrote: post #4
vincentkriek wrote: post #2

Although this is a nice write up about a possible setup for self hosted alternatives for popular cloud services, I don't like it. It falls short to compare the different possible services and the possibilities you can have with them. OwnCloud is nice, but why should I pick on OwnCloud and not SeaFile. Ampache is cool, but why not Subsonic? I would like to read the reasoning behind the individual choices OR the reason…

I've installed and abandoned ownCloud several times, mostly because it is far too heavy for what I need and I had concerns about its security. I also had to set up EncFS on my local machines for client-side encryption of sensitive files because there was no way I was trusting that to ownCloud server-side. It took more work to set up but I have Seafile self-hosted on the smallest DigitalOcean VPS and it works beautifu…

> I also had to set up EncFS on my local machines for client-side encryption of sensitive files because there was no way I was trusting that to ownCloud server-side.

Did you host OwnCloud yourself? But you didn't trust the software with your files? In what way is the SeaFile solution you are running now more trustworthy?

> I'm still looking for a good self-hosted CalDAV/CardDAV option that doesn't require PHP or MySQL, but as this data is less sensitive I'm happy to trust it to FastMail for now.

http://radicale.org/ is exactly what you are looking for.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by Tepix »

746F7475 wrote: post #3

It's sad that if you want a fast Internet around here you are put behind ISP wide NAT which means you can't host anything from home, so all these "self-hosted" things aren't really self-hosted for me.

Consider renting a tiny VPS and use it to tunnel its IPv4 address to your home box. Using tor is another option for some scenarios.

Re: Self-hosted alternatives to popular cloud services

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Post by [deleted] »

vincentkriek wrote: post #5
tombrossman wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've installed and abandoned ownCloud several times, mostly because it is far too heavy for what I need and I had concerns about its security. I also had to set up EncFS on my local machines for client-side encryption of sensitive files because there was no way I was trusting that to ownCloud server-side. It took more work to set up but I have Seafile self-hosted on the smallest DigitalOcean VPS and it works beautifu…

> I also had to set up EncFS on my local machines for client-side encryption of sensitive files because there was no way I was trusting that to ownCloud server-side. Did you host OwnCloud yourself? But you didn't trust the software with your files? In what way is the SeaFile solution you are running now more trustworthy? > I'm still looking for a good self-hosted CalDAV/CardDAV option that doesn't require PHP or MySQ…

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