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Waterfox – A fast browser

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Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#91

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Well, he's 20 now. And he's stuck with it for four years? That's pretty impressive.

Still young; he's probably still a student. People react differently to negative criticism, of course, but to some it can be devastating.

Someone building a web browser for 4 years has definitely come across some negative criticism by now. The best criticism we can offer him is that which is constructive.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#92
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I'm assuming the largely useless animation on the homepage is meant to make Chrome or Firefox start eating CPU and increase the perceived need for a new browser? I opened the tab, walked away for two minutes and came back to a hot and angry Chrome on my MBP.

The actual reason is you're an Apple hipster. On a proper desktop PC, Chrome doesn't get hot and hungry. Ever.

My PC must not be "proper".

Aw, snap.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#93
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I'm assuming the largely useless animation on the homepage is meant to make Chrome or Firefox start eating CPU and increase the perceived need for a new browser? I opened the tab, walked away for two minutes and came back to a hot and angry Chrome on my MBP.

The actual reason is you're an Apple hipster. On a proper desktop PC, Chrome doesn't get hot and hungry. Ever.

Ah, that must be why all the developers at my Microsoft-based workplace running Windows 7 complain about it so much.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#94
Even if I don't use Waterfox, I'm glad it exists. Browsers are very close to including DRM content and advertisements. When that happens I don't want to be stuck without an alternative. Thank you (if the developer is reading) for the effort and I hope you continue with this.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#96

I'm always interested by alternative 'Foxes, but I'm intrigued as to why the installer is about 25MB bigger than Firefox. What's in there that makes it a 50% bigger installer?

ICL creates huge libraries, especially with all the flags I use (-O3 -no-prec-div -Qparallel -arch:SSE3 -QaxCORE-AVX2,CORE-AVX-I,AVX,SSE4.2,SSE4.1,SSSE3). XUL generated like this is about 150MB (and for comparison offical Firefox XUL DLL is about 37MB)!

I'm pretty sure this is because internally, it has multiple copies of the assembly supporting different instruction sets. So it will have a lib with The Microsoft compiler works similarly. This is why "Release mode" builds with optimization on produce bigger binaries than "Debug mode" builds.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#97
post #18

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It can be for compute bound processes compiled on and for the latest Xeon servers. But, for end user apps with syscalls everywhere, I don't think the difference is notably different.

Hmmm, I don't think there are many syscalls in the Firefox rendering engine.

That's what I was thinking; wouldn't Firefox be basically in userspace, and therefore not be much faster using an Intel compiler?

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#98
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> "Finally found an alternative to @firefox that supports Adobe Flash without all the errors - @Waterfoxproject works just wonderfully :)" ...no thanks, unless they want to share details of their sandboxing tech.

I wonder what "all the errors" are that affect Flash on Firefox. Being derived from Firefox, why would Waterfox have better support for Flash?

I think it's just referring to having to manually enable Flash since Firefox will warn you that it's insecure.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#99
post #85

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You should try using something non-mainstream "Always a pleasure to count the number of clicks needed before you can establish that the only platforms are Linux, Mac and Windows."

Once you get obscure enough it becomes easy though. Generally anything that bothers to support Haiku and QNX mentions it. I think FreeBSD is definitely the sweet spot for counting clicks.

I'm a Plan 9 user. We don't even click.

Re: Waterfox – A fast browser

#100
post #87

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Explains why it barely handles my hundreds of bookmarks, though. Maybe I need to rewrite that part in native code haha.

It seems a joke but is also, sadly, a fact. Chrome bookmarks manager is lightspeed if compared to Firefox, to not mention total lack of usability on Firefox's part, so 1995.

Chrome bookmark manager stores a lot less though.
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