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Re: Nvidia's Jetson TX1 ARM development board

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Post by andreiw » Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC

andreiw wrote: post #49

Dunno, depending on what you're doing the Shield TV costs less and does about the same. People are running Ubuntu on these today, and you get the video, XHCI USB, GigE ethernet and WiFi working fine. Of course having a more "normal" platform is nice, but does a UART really cost 300 dollars more? (The ShieldTV has no physical serial port, at least not one I found anywhere). Also see https://github.com/andreiw/shieldTV…

nVidia...are you listening? Uncripple your firmware so booting custom images is not a song-and-dance (you broke it in 1.4!) and at least TELL us where the UART pads are on the motherboard. If you're really cool put together an "official" Ubuntu image that runs on the TX1 and the Shield.

Re: Nvidia's Jetson TX1 ARM development board

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Post by trsohmers » Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 11:39 PM UTC

fpp wrote: post #7

The price is quite a disappointment particularly when comparing to the Shield pricing (and how long NVidia has taken to present the kit - the X1 was introduced now almost a year ago / Shield on the market since early this year). Let's see in the next days how performance of the board stacks up once the embargo on publishing test results is over. Remember that the 1TFlops published is FP16 not FP32.

Also remember that NVIDIA loves saying that this is as fast as the ASCI RED Supercomputer from 2000... but that was FP64 1TFLOP machine. This NVIDIA chip gets a total of 16 GFLOPs of FP64... a whopping 1/64 the power of the ASCI computer they try to compare it to.

Re: Nvidia's Jetson TX1 ARM development board

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Post by jpierre » Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 11:48 PM UTC

andreiw wrote: post #49

Dunno, depending on what you're doing the Shield TV costs less and does about the same. People are running Ubuntu on these today, and you get the video, XHCI USB, GigE ethernet and WiFi working fine. Of course having a more "normal" platform is nice, but does a UART really cost 300 dollars more? (The ShieldTV has no physical serial port, at least not one I found anywhere). Also see https://github.com/andreiw/shieldTV…

Yep, I'm hoping that NVIDIA's Linux For Tegra[1] 23.1 release is installable on the Shield TV since it'll be adding AArch64 support for the TX1.

[1] https://developer.nvidia.com/embedded/linux-tegra

Re: Nvidia's Jetson TX1 ARM development board

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Post by leoc » Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 1:20 AM UTC

mtw wrote: post #38

leoc wrote: post #18

Another 64-bit ARM board out there: the Gigabyte MP30-AR0 http://b2b.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5422#... http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/03/27/gigabyte-mp30-ar0-is-... . Unfortunately this one has limited distribution and $ask pricing.

I don't see a GPU? as opposed to the Nvidia board

It has a VGA port and what seems to be a verrry modest video system. However, it also has two PCIe3 ×16s, so presumably you can use your own GPU, if the software support is there. There doesn't seem to be an integrated GPU in the AMD dev kit http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/s... either, so presumably there is Linux ARM PCI GPU support out there, unless everyone is just SSHing in?

Re: Nvidia's Jetson TX1 ARM development board

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Post by sireat » Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 9:23 AM UTC

I am trying to come up with a target market for these boards at these prices.

The development board could $500 or could be $1500 that is understandable, the big question is where is the market for the actual devices with the $300 board inside.

Some sort of gaming kiosks or maybe some sort of industrial use?

Most embedded users do not need that sort of GPU performance.

The people doing GPU computing would be using desktop hardware

Re: Nvidia's Jetson TX1 ARM development board

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Post by sliken » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 3:19 AM UTC

sireat wrote: post #55

I am trying to come up with a target market for these boards at these prices. The development board could $500 or could be $1500 that is understandable, the big question is where is the market for the actual devices with the $300 board inside. Some sort of gaming kiosks or maybe some sort of industrial use? Most embedded users do not need that sort of GPU performance. The people doing GPU computing would be using des…

Keep in mind the TX1 is just an early version trying to encourage adoption. The same chip is shipping in $200 tablets, so obviously the cpu can be pretty cheap.

Seems well within the cost of say your average pro/enthusiast level quad rotor if it could enable dynamic path finding, obstacle avoidance, and following a target.

Current systems can't for instance follow a bicyclist through a forest without hitting bushes/trees.

Current systems can't fly indoor automatically and avoid furniture, people, walls, etc.

The justification for a chip like the X1 is that it has enough CPU/GPU power for realtime vision type applications.