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Apple in Talks with US Banks to Develop Mobile Person-To-Person Payment Service

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We already have similar tech here in the US, it just hasn't been adopted by everybody yet.

Where? I bank with Wells Fargo and to make a wire transfer to anyone in the US, I have to physically walk into a branch and it costs $20.

Chase has "QuickPay", where you just enter the recipient's info, and the transfer is near-instantaneous. Only works with other Chase customers, however. Other banks have similar systems.

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With all the available options why would you want to use a service that requires you to figure out if the other person uses an iPhone?

I want to give my children their allowance? Or transfer money back and forth with my partner?

You can do this easily with Square Cash and Venmo already.

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I'll use Venmo until they pry it from my hands, it's one of the most life-transforming services I have ever used. I'll just repost my comment from the last Venmo thread here: ========================================= Venmo was started by UPenn alums so it was popular among my friends long before it was a phenomenon (one of my good friends interned there and wrote the BlackBerry app). I used to use it exclusively by S…

Venmo still takes several days to transfer the money to your account, and you have to remember to request the funds—they don't even begin the transfer process until you do that.

It would literally be faster to write your friend a check.

We need instant cash transfers in the United States, like the rest of the world has.

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With all the available options why would you want to use a service that requires you to figure out if the other person uses an iPhone?

My whole family and many of my friends use iPhones. iPhones are extremely secure thanks to TouchID and Apple's software. Apple already has payment info for me and a good relationship with banks. They're normally pretty great at UI and can integrate it into the OS in ways no 3rd party ever could. It will be built into the phone and come preinstalled so I don't have to convince people to install it. Apple shows a lot m…

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Why do you need banks, when you can just transfer Bitcoin?

If Apple introduces this, it will likely require scalability higher than that of the current blockchain, which allows for roughly seven transactions per second. Peer-to-peer is definitely the way forward, but for now, banks have the infrastructure, and the customers.

Payment channels combined with the lightning network (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zVzw912wPo) would allow Apple to create create off-chain transactions and aggregate micropayments into individual bitcoin transactions.

However, unless Apple has had a secret bitcoin project going on for the past few years, it's too early to deploy something like this. Their first person-to-person product certainly wouldn't use a cryptocurrency.

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Yes! I was just thinking: One hundred person-to-person payment services aren't enough... we need 101! Seriously though, Apple has a terrible time creating online services ( http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-and-the-cloud-a-magnifice... ) and there is no way another entry in the "Proprietary, heavily policed, middle-man-encumbered social payment tool" is going to go anywhere.

They are hit and miss. iCloud is somewhere between okay and meh (Photos made it worse), Music is terrible, but Apple Pay and iMessage are fantastic.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where? I bank with Wells Fargo and to make a wire transfer to anyone in the US, I have to physically walk into a branch and it costs $20.

Chase has "QuickPay", where you just enter the recipient's info, and the transfer is near-instantaneous. Only works with other Chase customers, however. Other banks have similar systems.

My experience with Chase "quick" pay is that the money disappears for several days and occasionally never reaches the recipient.

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Yes! I was just thinking: One hundred person-to-person payment services aren't enough... we need 101! Seriously though, Apple has a terrible time creating online services ( http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-and-the-cloud-a-magnifice... ) and there is no way another entry in the "Proprietary, heavily policed, middle-man-encumbered social payment tool" is going to go anywhere.

That article is a year old, and somewhat off. Apple's recent cloud stuff has all worked very well for me. The only spotty things are CoreData syncing (which may be deprecated, it's certainly not encouraged) and anything that touches iTunes (which is probably the oldest infrastructure they have). Stuff they've launched since then such as iCloud Photos has been working great. Heck Apple Pay works extremely well and tha…

iCloud Photos is still very slow. With Photostream, it used to be that photos were available almost instantly. Now I have to wait minutes, sometimes hours, for photos to sync from, say, my iPhone to my Mac. It's not a bandwidth issue on my end.

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Independently of the "cool factor", there is one more consideration to take into account. With the multiplication of electronic payment systems we are at risk of physical cash becoming marginalised. From a practical point of view I am not sure I would miss it, but from a privacy point of view this would certainly becoming a loss. Every single payment would end up being tracked. Another surveillance state dream coming to reality.
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