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Re: Google Hack Attack Was Ultra Sophisticated, New Details Show

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a similar train of thought, but in a slightly causality ordering: Places like google have a high potential for a high payout, and they know it. Therefore the cybersecurity is higher, requiring a better caliber of criminal.

"Although the initial attack occurred when company employees visited a malicious web site, Alperovitch said researchers are still trying to determine if this occurred via a URL sent to employees via e-mail or instant messaging or some other method, such as Facebook or other social networking sites." It still needed an employee to make the usual "install the dancing pigs"-style gaff while using IE6. Also: Employees us…

Good security is multi-layered. Just because they relied on an old trick to get their foot in the door, doesnt mean they have bad security inside or at more sensitive parts.

Re: Google Hack Attack Was Ultra Sophisticated, New Details Show

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This was ultra sophisticated, they used several layers of multi-encrypted malware to tunnel out and create reverse control channels. Not to mention used a 0day IE bug to install the malware in various targeted companies. This was gov sponsered...

And a team from the People's Liberation Army's signals intelligence branch will find themselves in jail soon for embarrassing the government...

It depends who their friends in high places are.

Re: Google Hack Attack Was Ultra Sophisticated, New Details Show

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a similar train of thought, but in a slightly causality ordering: Places like google have a high potential for a high payout, and they know it. Therefore the cybersecurity is higher, requiring a better caliber of criminal.

"Although the initial attack occurred when company employees visited a malicious web site, Alperovitch said researchers are still trying to determine if this occurred via a URL sent to employees via e-mail or instant messaging or some other method, such as Facebook or other social networking sites." It still needed an employee to make the usual "install the dancing pigs"-style gaff while using IE6. Also: Employees us…

The vulnerability was in IE 6, 7, and 8.

"Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, and Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8 on supported editions of Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 are affected."

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.ms...

Re: Google Hack Attack Was Ultra Sophisticated, New Details Show

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What I wonder about is what do they mean by "stealth programming"? I can think of just programming with white text on a white background, but that wouldn't serve any security related purpose.

From reading that, it's clear that the shellcode was obfuscated ('encrypting' it three times, though, would be unnecessary), but that's just a good way to muddle things up. Although from reading that it's obvious that it was a sophisticated attack in this day and age of cybercriminals who go for the easiest target available, nothing mentioned there hasn't been possible for almost any buffer overflow attack. Code obfuscation has been used for years for copy protection and to prevent static reverse engineering in general, and although nonstandard in exploitation, by no means unheard of. In my opinion a more impressive exploit would be one which used all printable ascii (which also is possible).

On a side note, some of the terms used are either misused or just wrong: although the payload may have been obfuscated, 'encryption' at least to me implies separate key/decryption schemes, which don't really work well from a shellcode point of view. You'd be better off using a static 'encryption' scheme like ROT13, but that seems more like obfuscation in this day and age, particularly since the code to deobfuscate it would have to be built in.

TL;DR: I think they throw around 'encryption' in places where it doesn't make sense to use it because it makes it sound scary, and it doesn't seem like any of the techniques used were 'new' or somehow more sophisticated then what was previously possible.

For simple IDS evasion, at least, so that you aren't throwing up flags: it could've been done to make forensics much harder.

Re: Google Hack Attack Was Ultra Sophisticated, New Details Show

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I find the fact that Adobe got hacked by a pdf vulnerability kinda funny.

Specifically, a 0-day exploit in the Adobe Reader software which Adobe knew about and refused to fix for months (since it would break their upgrade schedule).

They're denying it though, blaming it on IE only:

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/01/no_evidence_to_...

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