American parenting is killing the American marriage (2014)

Post by cakoose » Sun, Nov 08, 2015, 11:18 PM UTC

notacoward wrote: post #94

ajmurmann wrote: post #8

I never understood the sentiment of valuing babies over all else. To me it always seemed obvious that fresh college graduates are most valuable to society, since we just finished investing a ton of money into them. Babies on the other hand are easily replaced. I get this is mainly an emotional argument, but it's still startling to me how opposite it is to the purely economic argument I made above. In fact usually peo…

The purely economic argument is not about which is the bigger sunk cost. It's not about which will create the most total economic value, either. It's about the delta in economic value from additional investment. College grads are already on an upward trajectory. Statistically and as a group, they're likely to create significant value without any additional investment. Babies, on the other hand, are entirely unrealize…

Post by unabst » Sun, Nov 08, 2015, 11:33 PM UTC

douche wrote: post #95

unabst wrote: post #14

1) This comparison to me says more about religion than it does about parenting. Unconditional love and devotion to your baby? The feeling is physical, and the baby is real. To be able to invoke the same feelings for a deity appears more magical to me than parenting, especially for those who have never experienced having a child. 2) American parenting isn't killing marriage. Marriages are killed one at a time by the u…

I'm not so sure that "Once two capable independent adults decide to part ways, nothing could be easier." Particularly when children are involved, it can be very messy, very ugly, and ruinous for one or both parties, mentally and financially. Even in an ideal DINK relationship, depending on the state you live in, it can be difficult to come to a clean, amicable break, without ongoing obligations. It certainly is easie…

Post by dang » Sun, Nov 08, 2015, 11:43 PM UTC

adrianlmm wrote: post #104

ajmurmann wrote: post #8

I never understood the sentiment of valuing babies over all else. To me it always seemed obvious that fresh college graduates are most valuable to society, since we just finished investing a ton of money into them. Babies on the other hand are easily replaced. I get this is mainly an emotional argument, but it's still startling to me how opposite it is to the purely economic argument I made above. In fact usually peo…

>I never understood the sentiment of valuing babies over all else Becuase you are a sociopath.

Post by adrianlmm » Sun, Nov 08, 2015, 11:52 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #105

adrianlmm wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I never understood the sentiment of valuing babies over all else Becuase you are a sociopath.

> you are a sociopath Personal attacks are not allowed on HN. We ban accounts that do this. This isn't the first time you've broken the site guidelines by being uncivil. Please read the rules and follow them from now on: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

Post by sakopov » Mon, Nov 09, 2015, 12:06 AM UTC