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Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with Breitbart?

They're pretty right wing, and some of their articles are questionably sourced.

In this case, the only source for their article is the ESR blog post. We came very close to the amusing spectacle of ESR blog commenters claiming that the Breitbart post was confirmation of the blog post, but the dude pulled back at the last minute.

Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

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post #4

Breitbart wrote about an article about this. (Breitbart, I know I know...) http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/04/feminists-are-tryin...

This really shows how bad this is if true. Feminists creating an environment in STEM where men in power will be actively discouraged from mentoring or offering opportunities to women out of fear of being framed for sexual assault.

I am all about gender equality, but it seems that the Feminist lobby is working against itself more than anything lately. It's sad, because it's a problem that needs to be solved, but not through these vitriolic means...

Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

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post #9

Is there anything more to this than: Eric Raymond says that someone told him, apparently with no substantiation, that "multiple runs" of this sort of bizarre entrapment had occurred? It looks more than a bit paranoid to me, and such allegations seem to demand a serious burden of proof. EDIT: I won't complain about the downvote, but I assume it indicates that the answer is: yes, there's something more to it. I didn't…

I'm pretty willing to trust ESR on both the content of his correspondence and the general trustworthiness of his counterpart. It is, as you say, unsubstantiated, but reputation still counts for something.

Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

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post #9

Is there anything more to this than: Eric Raymond says that someone told him, apparently with no substantiation, that "multiple runs" of this sort of bizarre entrapment had occurred? It looks more than a bit paranoid to me, and such allegations seem to demand a serious burden of proof. EDIT: I won't complain about the downvote, but I assume it indicates that the answer is: yes, there's something more to it. I didn't…

There are some number of people who admire the good things ESR has done in a narrow specialization, and carry that over to granting him some authority in areas like conspiracy theorizing where he has not accomplished anything of note.

There are some number of people predisposed to believe these things regardless of who says them, because, well, they already believe this happens, so it's just confirmation of their world-view.

There isn't anything more presented to us than "Eric Raymond says that someone told him, apparently with no substantiation, that 'multiple runs' of this sort of bizarre entrapment had occurred," but that doesn't mean that members of either of those sets of people will dismiss it outright.

Meanwhile, Mr. Raymond's track record on non-Unix subjects like race, guns, foreign policy, and white identity politics are on the Internet for everyone to review and either applaud or boo as they see fit.

Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

#16

I would like to see this make it to the front page so we can see a decent discussion. ESR's source didn't actually provide him any proof or really any explanation of where he got his info at all. But if this gets a little more exposure maybe it will be possible to get Linus himself to weigh in.

The problem is that stories like this get flag-killed.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10510489

Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

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post #16

I would like to see this make it to the front page so we can see a decent discussion. ESR's source didn't actually provide him any proof or really any explanation of where he got his info at all. But if this gets a little more exposure maybe it will be possible to get Linus himself to weigh in.

The problem is that stories like this get flag-killed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10510489

the link is empty. What were you trying to show me?

Re: From kafkatrap to honeytrap

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post #9

Is there anything more to this than: Eric Raymond says that someone told him, apparently with no substantiation, that "multiple runs" of this sort of bizarre entrapment had occurred? It looks more than a bit paranoid to me, and such allegations seem to demand a serious burden of proof. EDIT: I won't complain about the downvote, but I assume it indicates that the answer is: yes, there's something more to it. I didn't…

I'm pretty willing to trust ESR on both the content of his correspondence and the general trustworthiness of his counterpart. It is, as you say, unsubstantiated, but reputation still counts for something.

He has a reputation on Open Source, but this is hardly his first paranoid conspiracy theory.
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