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Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by dang »

crpatino wrote: post #78

Ok, let me try to clarify, because lots of nonsense have been spoken here already. Mexico's Supreme Court has no right to say a thing with regards to US law, US policy or US Constitution. The article is talking (very briefly) about Mexican Constitution. One would think that was obvious, but apparently even at Hacker News, gringo's arrogance knows no limit. We do have our own laws and institutions in other countries i…

> gringo's arrogance knows no limit

Your first two paragraphs are a seriously unfair characterization of this thread. Obviously Mexico's Supreme Court is ruling about Mexico's constitution.

The remainder of your comment is factual and fine.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by crpatino »

dang wrote: post #81
crpatino wrote: post #78

Ok, let me try to clarify, because lots of nonsense have been spoken here already. Mexico's Supreme Court has no right to say a thing with regards to US law, US policy or US Constitution. The article is talking (very briefly) about Mexican Constitution. One would think that was obvious, but apparently even at Hacker News, gringo's arrogance knows no limit. We do have our own laws and institutions in other countries i…

> gringo's arrogance knows no limit Your first two paragraphs are a seriously unfair characterization of this thread. Obviously Mexico's Supreme Court is ruling about Mexico's constitution. The remainder of your comment is factual and fine.

I think my comment was extremely fair at the time when I wrote it. I am glad to see that more intelligent debate is going on now, but please go see the nonsense written at the bottom of the page and judge by yourself. I'd rather not point specific examples.

And thanks for your compliments too.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by paublyrne »

rplnt wrote: post #80

Going just by the title, it's obvious. I was really amazed when I learned that use of illegal drugs is prohibited (punishable offense) in US. It makes absolutely no sense in a civilized society.

Not sure why you were downvoted. I assume you mean you didn't know that it was illegal to be under the influence of drugs, as opposed to it being illegal to have drugs in your possession?

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by dchest »

Tomte wrote: post #71
transfire wrote: post #66

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." --Thomas Jefferson

I suppose you'd like to take FDA-unapproved medication? I wouldn't.

You say it like there's a choice.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by rplnt »

paublyrne wrote: post #83
rplnt wrote: post #80

Going just by the title, it's obvious. I was really amazed when I learned that use of illegal drugs is prohibited (punishable offense) in US. It makes absolutely no sense in a civilized society.

Not sure why you were downvoted. I assume you mean you didn't know that it was illegal to be under the influence of drugs, as opposed to it being illegal to have drugs in your possession?

Yes, that. Use or influence as opposed to possession/distribution.

edit: And as for downvotes, I'd say the "going just by the title" part is a bit offensive :)

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by paublyrne »

a3voices wrote: post #73
api wrote: post #70

I realized today that it's a privilege to watch prohibition die; it gives me faith in the future to witness the end of a profound injustice in my time.

Morality aside, I think widespread drug legalization will greatly increase usage rates. It could lead to a more dystopic future where a very large portion of people are using various drugs.

Yes and no.

Alcohol is legal in most countries and is widely consumed, certainly much more so than it would be if it were illegal. It can be very addictive, and it an be very destructive, like many drugs which are currently illegal.

I agree use of drugs would probably increase overall, but that society can adapt without collapse. Many people take illegal drugs now from time to time, and are able to function and live normally, have jobs, and not have their world implode.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by frame_perfect »

tomp wrote: post #77
saint_fiasco wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cartels make most of their money selling drugs to people in other, richer countries. If the US does not legalize those drugs, then Mexico will have to take the cost of legalization without it's biggest benefit.

Why? There will still be criminals tradficking drugs to the US... They just won't be ceiminals in Mexico any more!

Isn't that the whole point? If legalization goes through and the crime is only localized to the U.S., then Mexico's supreme court reduced crime in Mexico.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by frame_perfect »

a3voices wrote: post #73
api wrote: post #70

I realized today that it's a privilege to watch prohibition die; it gives me faith in the future to witness the end of a profound injustice in my time.

Morality aside, I think widespread drug legalization will greatly increase usage rates. It could lead to a more dystopic future where a very large portion of people are using various drugs.

I probably would have never started smoking pot if there wasn't that edgy/cool/illegal vibe to it. Once pot is legal, the stigma around recreational use will probably turn into something like drinking cough syrup for the DXM.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by [deleted] »

crpatino wrote: post #82
dang wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> gringo's arrogance knows no limit Your first two paragraphs are a seriously unfair characterization of this thread. Obviously Mexico's Supreme Court is ruling about Mexico's constitution. The remainder of your comment is factual and fine.

I think my comment was extremely fair at the time when I wrote it. I am glad to see that more intelligent debate is going on now, but please go see the nonsense written at the bottom of the page and judge by yourself. I'd rather not point specific examples. And thanks for your compliments too.

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Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by ossreality »

a3voices wrote: post #73
api wrote: post #70

I realized today that it's a privilege to watch prohibition die; it gives me faith in the future to witness the end of a profound injustice in my time.

Morality aside, I think widespread drug legalization will greatly increase usage rates. It could lead to a more dystopic future where a very large portion of people are using various drugs.

lol, I can't believe we're still having this conversation. Let me guess, someone has already pointed out Portugal? Or any of the ~dozen other places where legalization or decriminalization has lead to decreased usage. Both in the US and elsewhere.
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