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Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by illumen » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

thebouv wrote: post #8

I'm not fooling myself into seeing this as anything but a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" setup. RedHat is getting a ton out of this, and so is Microsoft. Who's the main target for Azure? Enterprise companies who trust Microsoft implicitly. When an exec comes to the head of IT and says "we need to be on the cloud! I read about it!", Azure eases the transition by being able to go to vendor you've already bee…

Azure is the OS. Red hat's stuff is the application.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by Mojah » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:38 PM UTC

cdnsteve wrote: post #6

A cloud provider that offers Linux and Windows, this is cutting edge.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or downright honest, so I'll just put it out there: we've had cloud providers offering both for at least 5+ years.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:47 PM UTC

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Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by scholia » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:47 PM UTC

This isn't really new, it's just Red Hat being late to the party. From Jun 6, 2012:

"The Linux services will go live on Azure at 4 a.m. EDT on Thursday. At that time, the Azure portal will offer a number of Linux distributions, including Suse Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP2, OpenSuse 12.01, CentOS 6.2 and Canonical Ubuntu 12.04. Azure users will be able to choose and deploy a Linux distribution from the Microsoft Windows Azure Image Gallery."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/257073/microsoft_to_run_linux...

Or you could always load your own distro of choice in Hyper-V.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by ceejayoz » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:48 PM UTC

cdnsteve wrote: post #6

A cloud provider that offers Linux and Windows, this is cutting edge.

Sure, it's not cutting edge, but it's one of a bunch of signs recently that Microsoft has turned over a new leaf in the last few years.

Visual Studio's page now mentions Git, a GPLed piece of software built for Linux kernel development. They've come a long way from "GPL is cancer!"

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by bechampion » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:56 PM UTC

who uses redhat ? (im not being sarcastic)

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by diakritikal » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:58 PM UTC

In the last 5 years we've experimented with Linux on top of hyper-v a few times.

The basic I/O, compile & runtime performance was significantly inferior to xen & kvm (didn't bench against vmware, phasing it out due to cost), it wasn't worth any effort to even deploy apps for testing.

Therefore I don't see Linux on hyper-v being a compelling option for the cost conscientious technical officer or lead engineer.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by auvi » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:58 PM UTC

bechampion wrote: post #16

who uses redhat ? (im not being sarcastic)

the US government is a big one.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by goykasi » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 2:59 PM UTC

bechampion wrote: post #16

who uses redhat ? (im not being sarcastic)

Shops that actually want the support that Redhat provides, otherwise they would probably use Debian or Centos.

I would assume Redhat-required shops would be running some pretty heavy, sophisticated workloads.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by dman » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 3:00 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #4

yxhuvud wrote: post #3

Now that is a headline that would have raised a few eyebrows 15 years ago.

In 2006 we had a similar headline. Microsoft partnered with Novell (SuSE Linux), and there was no happy end for one of them (Novell is no more; SuSE Linux once a major distribution next to RedHat is a shadow of its former self). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell#Agreement_with_Microsof...

The interesting part was that from what I recall there were a couple of quarters where Microsoft's sales force sold more Novell licenses than their own sales force.