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Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by fernandotakai » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 12:30 AM UTC

tw04 wrote: post #9

acchow wrote: post #8

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I have the Galaxy S6. Camera is wonderful. Battery life is crap. Going iPhone next.

I agree, the battery life is shockingly poor. I blame touchwiz as much as anything else. I would take a slightly thicker phone for a battery that consistently lasts all day.

i have my s6 rooted and with a custom rom. battery is not as bad, but not amazing. if i'm on a place with good mobile signal and on wifi, i can get a day[0] of battery life with ~2h of SOT (with my pebble connected and syncing all day long).

but at the same time it's kind of worth it, because it's easily the best camera on a cellphone i've ever used.

[0] http://i.imgur.com/J7Xe2FV.jpg

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by vinceguidry » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 12:44 AM UTC

gamegoblin wrote: post #40

humbleMouse wrote: post #27

I don't like the iphone 6 line. They are too big. I bike and run with my phone all the time and don't like having a clunker strapped to my arm. I got rid of the 6 and got a 5c and I like it way more. Just as fast as an iphone6 and 1/3 the price. By just as fast, I mean for normal use - not playing games and using crazy apps (which I don't do)

I recently downgraded from a 6 to a 5S almost entirely over size issues. If my thumb cannot reach the url bar of the browser and all of the keyboard without repositioning my hand, the phone is too big. I know on the 6 you can double tap the home key to bring the screen down, but that is a bandaid. I also found the double tap unresponsive sometimes, often having to try two or three times, in which time I could have ju…

I'm a fairly short guy with short-guy hands. I like the larger screen. I don't try to use my phone one-handed. I stop whatever it is I'm doing with the other hand and use both of them.

Sure, some people can multi-task. I might even be one of them. But I prefer not to.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by watmough » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 12:45 AM UTC

I am about to go read the article, but after owning a 6s+ for the past couple weeks, I will give a few impressions first:

  * Very very very large (this is a big-ass phone),
  * Very very very very fast,
  * Some good options in the UI for heavier Mac style 'fuzzy' text,
  * Battery life is barely dented after a typical day of surfing and texting occasionally at work,
  * Phone is 'slippery' and I have to use a special grip, wrapping fingers around it to hold it securely,
  * Camera is fantastic, with people asking me 'what lens' are you using, assuming I'm on my Nikon SLR,
  * Fingerprint unlocking is here, and works perfectly.

All in all, it's an incredible leap from the iPhone 4S I had before. $900+ is a LOT for a phone though.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by davnicwil » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 12:54 AM UTC

mturmon wrote: post #90

davnicwil wrote: post #79

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Is it obvious? What if you displease them in one way, by making older phones have a limited lifespan, but redress that by pleasing them enough to make the difference in other ways, for example by developing newer phones with superior features that get them excited enough not to care so much about the shortcomings of the old model (shortcomings which wouldn't necessarily be as apparent if the phone had a longer lifesp…

Above, you wondered about "what possible incentive" there could be against obsolescence, and said you weren't being rhetorical, you really wanted to know. @aljones gives such an incentive. Now, you try to cook up particular parameter values under which this reasoning would not apply ("what if you displease them in one way..."). What is the point of this?

Sorry, with respect I don't really understand your criticism.

I asked for incentives because I'm not aware of any strong ones, aljones replied with what they thought was such an incentive. But, am I obliged to agree? If I disagree, should I not point this out and continue the discussion in a constructive manner?

Additionally, cook up particular parameter values - I don't understand what you mean - we are talking specifically about the 2 year lifecycle of a phone, and the manufacturers' incentives for keeping it as such - I didn't bring that in out of nowhere, that's what we were originally talking about!

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by mikeyouse » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 12:55 AM UTC

gamegoblin wrote: post #40

humbleMouse wrote: post #27

I don't like the iphone 6 line. They are too big. I bike and run with my phone all the time and don't like having a clunker strapped to my arm. I got rid of the 6 and got a 5c and I like it way more. Just as fast as an iphone6 and 1/3 the price. By just as fast, I mean for normal use - not playing games and using crazy apps (which I don't do)

I recently downgraded from a 6 to a 5S almost entirely over size issues. If my thumb cannot reach the url bar of the browser and all of the keyboard without repositioning my hand, the phone is too big. I know on the 6 you can double tap the home key to bring the screen down, but that is a bandaid. I also found the double tap unresponsive sometimes, often having to try two or three times, in which time I could have ju…

> If my thumb cannot reach the url bar of the browser and all of the keyboard without repositioning my hand, the phone is too big.

I know this isn't the question you asked and you've already moved on, but for others, there is a way around this problem on the iPhone. If you 'soft tap' the home button twice, the entire display shifts down about 3 inches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3CTKI6pRlQ

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by mahouse » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 1:08 AM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #33

I'm mostly an Android user and now I have an iPhone 6s, received as a gift - this is actually the third iPhone I'm receiving as a gift, the first one was a 3GS. I like the hardware, the phone, its size. I like how polished it feels. I really like the photos it takes. But I consider Android's software to be superior. Others might disagree, but I have many reasons for why I prefer Android and I think iOS is falling fur…

"Others might disagree, but I have many reasons for why I prefer Android but I'm not going to say what they are because I like to maintain a halo of mistery"

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by 467568985476 » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 1:09 AM UTC

nothrabannosir wrote: post #93

cloudwalking wrote: post #69

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Blind testing swings the other way: http://www.androidauthority.com/blind-camera-shootout-winner... Taste is subjective, I have no doubt you like the Samsung more. But subjectively, on average, people like iPhone photos more often than they like Android photos.

It turned out to be quite a close-run race between the iPhone 6S and the Galaxy Note 5 for the title but Apple’s latest just beat Samsung’s latest with 38.2 and 34.1 percent of the 7810 votes respectively. On an internet poll. When the results are this close, details matter. Not to mention there are no Android photos, only Samsung, Nokia, &c. And even then, different models. Not saying you're wrong (I think you're ri…

Both of these phones have great cameras, but they don't hold a candle to the performance of even crop sensor entry level DSLRs and mirrorless bodies. It seems pointless to me to split hairs over picture quality between two strong options when anyone who _seriously_ cares about pixel peeping wouldn't use a smartphone for photography in the first place

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by TylerE » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 1:12 AM UTC

acchow wrote: post #8

tw04 wrote: post #7

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I've got an iphone 6 for work, and an S6 edge for personal use. I can say with confidence that the Samsung camera is better. However I will say they're close enough, and they're both so far ahead of the pack, that you could flip a coin.

I have the Galaxy S6. Camera is wonderful. Battery life is crap. Going iPhone next.

That's the biggest difference. The main thing I've noticed (I've owned, in order a Moto Droid, iPhone 4s, HTC One m7, and now an iphone 6s+) is that battery life during USAGE is broadly similar, but iPhone uses a HUGE amount less when sleeping/idle.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by rifung » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 1:15 AM UTC

sghodas wrote: post #77

zephod wrote: post #72

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I feel the same way, and at this point I'm just holding out for some kind of iPhone Nano product line next year. What puzzles me is that I don't know anybody else who feels like this. Most people are surprised at me, or don't seem to notice that they suddenly need two hands to operate their smartphone.

I have the 6s+, and yeah I can't use it with one hand, but I'm okay with that because I love having the bigger screen so much more. I can see a lot more while typing, watching videos is a better experience, and I've noticed myself using the bigger phone (I used to have a 5s) in new ways a lot more. Before, I would avoid doing some tasks on my phone like taking more than a few lines of notes. The bigger screen feels l…

I think it probably has to do with the kind of lifestyle you have. For me, I have to commute by bus, and most of the time it's packed so I have to stand. While on the bus I'd like to use my phone to avoid boredom, which means using it with one hand because I need the other to hold onto something.

I can totally see how having a bigger screen and bigger battery are great. But unfortunately for some of us, we have times where we need to be able to use the phone with one hand.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by josephlord » Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 1:16 AM UTC

soylentcola wrote: post #46

calvin_c wrote: post #36

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A good precedent has already been set for this. The first iPhone got two major updates, iOS 4.0 being the first version that didn't support it. The 3GS added an extra year to the lifespan, launching with iOS 3.0 and only being left out of support for iOS 7. The 4S added even another year, recently having received the fourth major update of it's lifespan. So yeah, while there is certainly some performance lost on a 4S…

This is the dilemma I've run across over the past couple of years. Android devices have a much worse track record regarding official OS updates compared to iOS devices. But then on the flipside, when my iOS devices get older, I can't downgrade or install something more "lightweight" like I can with my Android stuff. Maybe I'm just used to being able to repurpose old laptops and desktops with slimmed down Linux when t…

If you are using an old version there are generally known security holes so while the snappier performance might be desirable I don't think it is a good trade off.