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Re: A new approach to China

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post #179

I love that CNN's app on the iPhone immediately sent me an alert to let me know when Brittany Murphy died whereas 3 hours after a real story like this broke I still haven't gotten any sort of notification. Uninstalling CNN's app right after I post this.

nytimes.com sent out an email alert as soon as the story broke.

Re: A new approach to China

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"In the last two decades, China's economic reform programs and its citizens' entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty."

Yeah, through slave-like conditions. Well done.

Re: A new approach to China

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post #38

nobody seems to be commenting on the attack part of that post. what was the "highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google"? that doesn't sound like just a few end-user gmail accounts being compromised, but something that was much more serious that may have exposed more information than just what these ch…

Wikileaks says: Gossip inside google China is gov hackers found infiltrating google source code repository; gmail attacks an old issue. http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/7688415363 EDIT: I see "est" mentioned this rumor, too. BTW, a CNN producer is tweeting that Google CN workers may have been sent home early. Conspiracy theorists would say that supports the idea of an attack from the inside. Or maybe Google just h…

Google may have even sent the employees home to help protect them. If they seem uninvolved in Google's decision to uncensor, then it's less likely that the employees will face punishment from the Government.

Re: A new approach to China

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post #243

Could someone post the text of this blog entry here into Hacker News Comments (if doing so isn't a copyright violation)? I live in China, therefore can't read the blog post (though have deduced much of its content from reading these comments!) Before the Olympics, the Firewall would periodically block blogspot, but it was easy to get around it using proxies. However, post-Olympics, in May 2009, all of blogspot was bl…

Would an email list that emails out a new proxy web address once one gets blocked to its subscribers work?

-- there is some open source code that can be setup to run as a proxy app

-- there's a main site that pings it to see when it goes down, or an email address that can be mailed if it goes down.

-- once blocked, a new email goes out to users with the next proxy server web address that has already been setup and ready to use: an IP, domain or sub domain url

-- so it's like dominoes falling and the current one standing is what people use, as new dominoes are setup in the background

Challenge:

1) finding a ready supply of IP addresses, domains, and URLs where new proxies can be setup

2) making sure the emails aren't blocked

3) plugin so it works transparently for the end user

Re: A new approach to China

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post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often do you cross-post the exact same comment between HN and reddit? http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/aouv5/new_appro... Edit: I may have jumped to conclusions; the individual on reddit may have very well stolen your comment in which case my accusation is invalid.

Someone mod poor Femur up, he was right all along.

Thanks, but I don't worry about karma. The discussion that followed because of my post was reward enough. :)

Re: A new approach to China

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This is incredible. This is the first time, I have seen a LARGE company * Putting its users above profits * Stand up to Chinese Government. Since accounts of human rights activists were targeted, this operation was clearly done at the behest of Chinese Government. I'm disgusted by the levels to which the Chinese Government can stoop. It is time the world stands up to China. If a corporation, whose main aim is to gene…

I am proud of the Google, but the skeptic in me says:

Google knows that it is not in a leading position in China and has been losing market share there. The fight there is probably not a fair one(but where is it a fair one?).

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Drops-in-Market-Share-...

Thus they can make a strong, positive statement that the rest of the market will applaud, while not really losing that much(although 12% of China is still quite a bit).

Re: A new approach to China

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post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone mod poor Femur up, he was right all along.

Thanks, but I don't worry about karma. The discussion that followed because of my post was reward enough. :)

Good enough, but a -4 just for getting the timing wrong by a couple of minutes was hardly your mistake.

You had it backwards, but if you hadn't spotted that I highly doubt that this would have come out.

And I also highly doubt the whole 'social experiment' excuse, that's just way too glib for me.

Re: A new approach to China

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post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often do you cross-post the exact same comment between HN and reddit? http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/aouv5/new_appro... Edit: I may have jumped to conclusions; the individual on reddit may have very well stolen your comment in which case my accusation is invalid.

That is not my reddit id and even if it was what is wrong with doing that ?

I didn't mean to imply that anything was wrong with it, I was just going to see if you often cross-posted.

Re: A new approach to China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty low.

Actually, I think it's kind of interesting. Granted, it was impolite to crosspost the comment from boundless without asking first, but this could be an interesting thought process. I'm kind of wondering what conclusions andreyf was trying to draw. Edit: After a little thought, I think you may be blowing this up a little bit. He did delete the comment when boundless objected and it wasn't exactly a work of art or anyt…

wondering what conclusions andreyf was trying to draw

I was wondering who would pick up first on the unyielding Google-love and the blatantly imagined Chinese-espionage speculation, HN or reddit. reddit won :( http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/aouv5/new_appro...

Re: A new approach to China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I think it's kind of interesting. Granted, it was impolite to crosspost the comment from boundless without asking first, but this could be an interesting thought process. I'm kind of wondering what conclusions andreyf was trying to draw. Edit: After a little thought, I think you may be blowing this up a little bit. He did delete the comment when boundless objected and it wasn't exactly a work of art or anyt…

9 Hours later, after parting with this gem: > "As a matter of fact, the reason I cross-posted is that I don't think the comment in question deserved the top spot, and would frankly be ashamed if such writing/logic were ever seriously attributed to me." It's a new low for HN from what I've seen to date.

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