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Are you listening, or are you posting copypasta?
A constructive argument might be more appropriate than simply trying to deliver an insult in your comment.
Death Rates Rising for Middle-Aged White Americans
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Re: Death Rates Rising for Middle-Aged White Americans
#82This is how I would write the article (and this is probably all there is to the article)
Over the past 15 years, death rates for whites per 100,000 people aged 45–54 remained basically the same, with the natural increase lifespan being offset by increases in both suicide and alcohol/drug issues. This difference is statistically significant, but it is on the order of 1 or 2 extra deaths per thousand people for their lives from 45-54. It is highly unusual for death rates to change like that. The last great change in the west of this magnitude was with the introduction of HIV/AIDS. For context, the average middle class white american would experience the same increase in risk if they took up canoeing over the same period.
But maybe I missed it. I got a graph where one line stays the same where others decline, and I got a graph where risk increases for a couple causes of death by a very small amount (out of dozens not listed)
Also I have approximately 50 comments lamenting the rise of third world conditions in places like Peoria and the death of all things good and decent in the USA. I believe if a little more context was provided by the news outlet in this case, perhaps our comments would be more aligned with the actual impact of the news being reported.
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Turns out that voting against your own economic interests for a few decades has consequences.
Turns out if both parties in a two party system are co-opted by oligarchs then it pretty much isn't possible to vote in favor of your own economic interests.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
A constructive argument might be more appropriate than simply trying to deliver an insult in your comment.
I'm just confused, because you didn't address anything in my comment, you're just spewing right-wing propaganda. We tried "small government", it failed horribly and lead to widespread misery and avoidable deaths. How do you plan to make a "small government" without repeating past mistakes?
If we failed anything with small government as you say, those things were growing pains that we would have experienced with a government of any scale. I guess what I'm saying is that it's unfair to blame "small government" for the problems exposed during the industrial revolution.
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It's a sad state of affairs made worse by undereducated, lazy people who blame the government and simultaneously elect politicians who promise to solve the problem for them by handing out a gift-wrapped "american dream" that everyone feels they deserve. I see this kind of self-destructive philosophy/behavior every day, and I'm getting tired of it. It's always someone else's fault, yet it seems the "progressives" in o…
This is a laughable takeaway. These white rural voters haven't voted themselves any government benefits, they've voted to dismantle the welfare state, destroy collective bargaining, increase the middle class tax burden, drastically increase mandatory prison sentences for non-violent drug crimes, a parade of trojan horse giveaways to the rich, etc. Now those chickens are increasingly coming home to roost at their door…
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#86I'm in my 30s, male and ostensibly white by American standards and I've been watching these sorts of trends for a while. Distrust in our certain brand of capitalism has led me to regard America with a wary eye. It has influenced a lot of my life decisions, i.e. stack cash, stay mobile/agile, no spouse, no children, etc. so that I can continually pursue the best jobs no matter when/where they appear. I luckily was abl…
I guess you haven't looked to carefully into how the EU economies are doing.
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"The stays usually turn into uncollectible debts for the hospitals." --> "The stays turn into bankruptcy for the patients" Incidentally the leading cause of personal bankruptcy in the US is unpayable hospital bills. For those outside the US, here is how it works: a simple visit to the doctor for antibiotics (the ER, since that becomes your only option) turns into a $1200 bill.
> a simple visit to the doctor for antibiotics (the ER, since that becomes your only option) turns into a $1200 bill. WOW. It's like $10-$20 in private clinic here. Or free if you want to wait for a few hours.
What for do I want to receive 100K in the Bay area and pay an huge amount of money to get a decent house, health care, safety and schooling for my kids?
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There's tons of jobs out there for people with only a high school diploma. "Web Developer" is one of them.
Genuine question: have you ever heard of an uneducated, fifty-year-old unemployed factory worker becoming a successful web developer? Maybe there are a tiny number, but I've never heard of such a thing. Re-educating fifty-year-olds into complete new fields on any mass scale is just not realistic. We're talking about millions of people that have minimal math skills, mediocre writing skills, and no computer skills. Eve…
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Genuine question: have you ever heard of an uneducated, fifty-year-old unemployed factory worker becoming a successful web developer? Maybe there are a tiny number, but I've never heard of such a thing. Re-educating fifty-year-olds into complete new fields on any mass scale is just not realistic. We're talking about millions of people that have minimal math skills, mediocre writing skills, and no computer skills. Eve…
Maybe that's what should be done with all the fifty-year-old software developers complaining about ageism. Just train them to be web developers.
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> for being a "white guy" I am 100% certain that you have not only been rejected for being a white guy. White people are the most sought-after race in the United States[1], partially because most people seek partners of the same race. Furthermore, the language you're using is deeply concerning. Women aren't a "reward" for your efforts. Failing to find a sexual partner is not a "punishment". No one owes you sex, and t…
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanc...
The argument in the article seems to be that, if you're a good guy on paper (you don't abuse women, you're financially stable, etc.) that you should get attention from women instead of men who aren't good guys on paper.
My response is similar: the world is not a vending machine where you insert "hard work" or "not beating women" and a sex partner drops out at the bottom. No one just "deserves" sex. It should never be a bargaining chip or a debt that someone is paying you.
What's particularly disturbing about this line of thinking is that these people seem to think women owe them in general. It's like they don't even know who they want to have sex with them, and they feel that some woman now needs to step up.
Do you not see how bizarre that is? It echoes the comments of the mass shooter who went to a Lulu Lemon to kill women because they "owed him".
Nice guys are nice guys because they don't want to harm anyone and because it's good for the people around them. They don't secretly (or publicly!) expect to be rewarded for it with sex.