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A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by canjobear »

s5edvvddd wrote: post #4

Produced by Alex Kurtzman who was also the producer of Michael Bay's Transformers , Star Trek remakes which are basically the lowest common denominator action movies, and Scorpion the series about incredibly incorrect portrayal of hacking and hackers. This is going to be action schlock, a series like TNG will never be made again. I don't want too sound too depressing, just letting you know to adjust your expectations…

While I share your concerns there is cause for hope in the article. First, the third Abrams-verse Star Trek movie is "not related" to the new series---hopefully all JJ Abrams movies are unrelated to the new series. Second, the show "will focus on 'new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations'", so it won't be Kirk and Spock. If their goal were to put some Star Trek IP wallpaper over action shlock, then it would probably be Kirk & Spock.

So I'm cautiously optimistic.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by Elizer0x0309 »

s5edvvddd wrote: post #4

Produced by Alex Kurtzman who was also the producer of Michael Bay's Transformers , Star Trek remakes which are basically the lowest common denominator action movies, and Scorpion the series about incredibly incorrect portrayal of hacking and hackers. This is going to be action schlock, a series like TNG will never be made again. I don't want too sound too depressing, just letting you know to adjust your expectations…

Don't worry they'll make the cast all females to pander to the feminist craze and all will be well.... /s

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by noir_lord »

pyrophane wrote: post #50
Touche wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we might some day see something even better than TNG. We already saw that. http://www.startrek.com/page/star-trek-deep-space-nine

Oh really? I haven't watched much of DS9. Perhaps I should give it another look.

DS9 is different in tone to TNG but every bit as good, it explores what happens when the idealism of the Federation runs smack into an equivalently advanced technologically civilisation that has a horrible social structure.

It's very good.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by belovedeagle »

krapp wrote: post #45
dnautics wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's star trek canon that the Ferengi never had any internal problems with slavery (of other Ferengi) or genocide. I think it would be much more interesting to explore the creepier side of this supposedly egalitarian post-scarcity economy... I mean think of how wierd it is that a military organization is in charge of scientific exploration, that all the individuals on the starship are tracked at all times, et…

>that all the individuals on the starship are tracked at all times The tracking as such seems to be pretty passive most of the time - the computer has to be asked before telling the bridge crew where someone is (for dramatic effect), even if they've been confined to quarters, or sucked into a parallel universe. It could be that the computer is constantly monitoring the crew, or that while it has the capability to tra…

Indeed, the computer never bothered to mention when people were removed from the ship unexpectedly; it was always up to the bridge crew to ask and learn, "oh by the way, yeah, main character X was beamed off the ship by enemies hours ago". Annoying when it happened, but suggests a pretty significant concession to privacy.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by kingmanaz »

The "dark" fetish in television, particularly in sci-fi, is growing increasingly tired. Shows like TNG, which would take one on a voyage to a positive, better future, are being replaced by blue-tinted melodramas filled with beige characters. Trek's downward spiral began with DS9, and the trip to the future has gotten progressively dingier with every subsequent effort.

I'll be hoping for a Trek with new worlds filled with new solutions to current problems, but expecting another dreary Breaking Bad tinged with Walking Dead, this time--yawn--amidst the stars.

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Post by s5edvvddd »

amalcon wrote: post #55
dasboth wrote: post #48

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Not the first time I've heard this odd vs even thing. Was The Voyage Home the one with the whales? That premise was a bit silly although the film had its moments. Which number was First Contact? I always thought that was way better than the others.

Since it was apparently a little confusing: 1) The Motion Picture: The one with V'Ger 2) The Wrath of Khan: The one with Khan 3) The Search For Spock: The one that fixed the problem caused by #2 4) The Voyage Home: The one with the whales 5) The Final Frontier: The one of which will not be spoken 6) The Undiscovered Country: The one with the Khitomer Accords 7) Generations: The one with both Kirk and Picard 8) First…

  11) Star Trek: Kirk gets promoted from Cadet to Captain in one day
  12) Star Trek  Into Darkness: Spock is angry

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by tauchunfall »

pyrophane wrote: post #50
Touche wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we might some day see something even better than TNG. We already saw that. http://www.startrek.com/page/star-trek-deep-space-nine

Oh really? I haven't watched much of DS9. Perhaps I should give it another look.

I didn't like DS9 when I was a kid. Same for Babylon 5. However gave it a try three years ago and watched all seven seasons. Enjoyed it much. Especially the last seasons are very good. There are also single episodes with very unique stories.

Also don't forget star trek: voyager, my personal favorite.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by bane »

noir_lord wrote: post #63
pyrophane wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh really? I haven't watched much of DS9. Perhaps I should give it another look.

DS9 is different in tone to TNG but every bit as good, it explores what happens when the idealism of the Federation runs smack into an equivalently advanced technologically civilisation that has a horrible social structure. It's very good.

I think it also delves deep into belief systems of different kinds and how that motivates people. It even asks questions around "if you have no choice but belief, is it still belief?"

It takes a little while to get going, but the story is probably one of the finest arcs on TV.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by ethbro »

pyrophane wrote: post #50
Touche wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we might some day see something even better than TNG. We already saw that. http://www.startrek.com/page/star-trek-deep-space-nine

Oh really? I haven't watched much of DS9. Perhaps I should give it another look.

Just stop before the last season, for the love of god.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by johnchristopher »

krapp wrote: post #45
dnautics wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's star trek canon that the Ferengi never had any internal problems with slavery (of other Ferengi) or genocide. I think it would be much more interesting to explore the creepier side of this supposedly egalitarian post-scarcity economy... I mean think of how wierd it is that a military organization is in charge of scientific exploration, that all the individuals on the starship are tracked at all times, et…

>that all the individuals on the starship are tracked at all times The tracking as such seems to be pretty passive most of the time - the computer has to be asked before telling the bridge crew where someone is (for dramatic effect), even if they've been confined to quarters, or sucked into a parallel universe. It could be that the computer is constantly monitoring the crew, or that while it has the capability to tra…

Somehow I always thought the computer tracked people's badge, not the bodies.
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