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Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by Jtsummers » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:09 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #8

s5edvvddd wrote: post #4

Produced by Alex Kurtzman who was also the producer of Michael Bay's Transformers , Star Trek remakes which are basically the lowest common denominator action movies, and Scorpion the series about incredibly incorrect portrayal of hacking and hackers. This is going to be action schlock, a series like TNG will never be made again. I don't want too sound too depressing, just letting you know to adjust your expectations…

I'll be the contrarian optimist: Star Trek movies are, on average, bad. Compare Star Trek: Nemesis to an episode of TNG - it's guilty of everything you attribute to the new Star Trek movies. The only reason it got a pass was because of the goodwill that the TNG show garnered for its characters. So I choose to believe/hope that a TV show isn't doomed to have the same outlook as the movie. I expect I may well be wrong,…

Nemesis didn't get a pass with any fans I know. It's pretty much considered the worst of the first ten movies excluding possibly 5, depending on the fan.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by ZanyProgrammer » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:09 PM UTC

After the last decade of TV, what a lot of people refer to as the Golden Age of Television, I'm not placing my hope in something that CBS is producing. I have a feeling it'll be a dash of the Abrams-verse, mixed in with Voyager and Enterprise writing and style. I'm hoping that's not the case, but I worry that whatever debuts on CBS will appear incredibly underwhelming compared to the last 10 years or so of television drama.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by Nimsical » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:10 PM UTC

Silicon Valley's productivity will fall by a few percentage points during that week. So excited :P

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:10 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #8

s5edvvddd wrote: post #4

Produced by Alex Kurtzman who was also the producer of Michael Bay's Transformers , Star Trek remakes which are basically the lowest common denominator action movies, and Scorpion the series about incredibly incorrect portrayal of hacking and hackers. This is going to be action schlock, a series like TNG will never be made again. I don't want too sound too depressing, just letting you know to adjust your expectations…

I'll be the contrarian optimist: Star Trek movies are, on average, bad. Compare Star Trek: Nemesis to an episode of TNG - it's guilty of everything you attribute to the new Star Trek movies. The only reason it got a pass was because of the goodwill that the TNG show garnered for its characters. So I choose to believe/hope that a TV show isn't doomed to have the same outlook as the movie. I expect I may well be wrong,…

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Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by gre » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:13 PM UTC

kanzure wrote: post #3

other thread fell off the frontpage already? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10492824

Someone killed it. Don't want hn to become slashdot /s

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by pmontra » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:14 PM UTC

Am I the only one who doesn't like those links to the NYTimes requiring registration or social login? Here's the news from another source http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premier... (courtesy of the other thread)

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by rhino369 » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:18 PM UTC

ecopoesis wrote: post #2

Strange that CBS is going to be putting this only on streaming (CBS All Access). I'm not sure if that's a brilliant bet on the future or a foolhardy miscalculation.

It's the perfect way to capture revenue from a somewhat niche audience that has a strong demand for the content. 72 bucks a year for Star Trek is a no brainer compared to other star trek fan spending.

It's how sports leagues fund their streaming: you pay a lot for the content. Sure not many sign up, but the real fans more than make up for it.

The real problem I foresee is the large overlap in star trek fandom and internet pirates.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by ConceptJunkie » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:22 PM UTC

Jtsummers wrote: post #11

untog wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll be the contrarian optimist: Star Trek movies are, on average, bad. Compare Star Trek: Nemesis to an episode of TNG - it's guilty of everything you attribute to the new Star Trek movies. The only reason it got a pass was because of the goodwill that the TNG show garnered for its characters. So I choose to believe/hope that a TV show isn't doomed to have the same outlook as the movie. I expect I may well be wrong,…

Nemesis didn't get a pass with any fans I know. It's pretty much considered the worst of the first ten movies excluding possibly 5, depending on the fan.

Oh, V was much worse. Much, much worse.

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by WorldMaker » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:23 PM UTC

gkoberger wrote: post #6

ecopoesis wrote: post #2

Strange that CBS is going to be putting this only on streaming (CBS All Access). I'm not sure if that's a brilliant bet on the future or a foolhardy miscalculation.

You wouldn't like Star Trek on CBS proper. Shows on TV need to be mainstream to work, given how advertisement works. By putting it online, they're changing the expectations: it doesn't have to appeal to everyone. Rather, it can be made for a niche audience, which is good for Star Trek. That's why Arrested Development (in theory) can work on Netflix but not FOX.

Yeah, I don't think Star Trek meshes with CBS demographics right now. They'd likely end up with NCIS: Star Trek Edition. That said, I probably wouldn't mind a young adult soap opera Star Trek for the CW network.

The issue with CBS' digital efforts is that they are a strange island unto themselves and Star Trek alone is unlikely to get too many more visitors to their island. They really need to consider a partnership with Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, or something left field like Vudu or HBO Now. But of course they are stubborn and probably won't.

(Does it make financial sense to anyone right now to spend $5/month on just CBS shows when the same could go to most of a Netflix or Hulu subscription with a much broader content base?)

Re: A New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series Will Debut in 2017

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Post by ajtaylor » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:25 PM UTC

Inthenameofmine wrote: post #10

s5edvvddd wrote: post #4

Produced by Alex Kurtzman who was also the producer of Michael Bay's Transformers , Star Trek remakes which are basically the lowest common denominator action movies, and Scorpion the series about incredibly incorrect portrayal of hacking and hackers. This is going to be action schlock, a series like TNG will never be made again. I don't want too sound too depressing, just letting you know to adjust your expectations…

Yeah this isn't going to be about the core of what Star Trek is about: Humanistic ideas, science, and exploration. > a series like TNG will never be made again I have higher hopes than ever actually. With Netflix creating their own TV shows, crowdfunding booming, as well as cheap alternative movie and CGI studios popping up worldwide, we might some day see something even better than TNG. Edit: I mean, look at Stargat…

I loved Stargate Universe! It was just getting really good when the series was cancelled. :(