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If you start with the first season of TNG and don't like it, perhaps check out a different season before giving up on it. They maybe hadn't quite found their footing yet.
A lot first season scripts were recycled TOS scripts or ideas for the abandoned "Star Trek Phase II" show. The later seasons' writing was geared more for the TNG characters & actors, which helped them feel more natural.
New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
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Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#72Kinda worried that this will be a "web-only" series, Star Trek needs quite a good production to work well, The budget for a TNG episode was 2M$ which was pretty unheard off back then and is even considered expensive these days (GOT which is currently the most expensive running show has about 6M per episode and when you count the fact that TNG had 24-25 episodes per season the overall season budget was almost the same…
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#73It would be perfect to introduce a new crew and follow them through the Academy years. They could either do the backstories of existing characters to introduce new ones. You can combine the fun of Hogwarts-eque school, with younger drama, and still throw in lots of science and adventures.
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#74It appears we will all need to pay CBS %5.99 a month to watch this.
Yes, CBS has this weird notion that you will pay $5.99 a month AND watch commercials that you can't skip. I get that they "think" its like this now, they get paid by the cable company for their channel (the $5.99) and they send them content with commercials (which they have sold), but the new world is NetFlix which charges monthly, but has now commercials.
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#75Kinda worried that this will be a "web-only" series, Star Trek needs quite a good production to work well, The budget for a TNG episode was 2M$ which was pretty unheard off back then and is even considered expensive these days (GOT which is currently the most expensive running show has about 6M per episode and when you count the fact that TNG had 24-25 episodes per season the overall season budget was almost the same…
Yeah, tying this to an unproven web streaming service seems like the modern equivalent of giving a show a time slot in the middle of the night. Maybe worse, actually. The "Captain Worf" show was AFAIK never in serious consideration. Michael Dorn was a huge fan of the idea and kept proposing it everywhere he went, which is the only reason it gained as much publicity as it did, but as far as I can tell it was never tak…
This is just standard operating procedure for CBS/Paramount, who have viewed Star Trek as a big enough draw to attract audiences to new distribution channels for decades.
Back in the '70s they planned to use a Star Trek: Phase II series to launch a new network that never got off the ground (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Phase_II).
Then in the '80s they used Star Trek: The Next Generation as the flagship for a new, syndication-only system of network-unaffiliated TV stations.
Then in the '90s they revived the dream of a Paramount network in the form of UPN (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPN), and created Star Trek: Voyager to attract viewers to that.
These efforts have had varying degrees of success, but they've never failed hard enough to shake CBS/Paramount from the conviction that new Star Trek is something people will want to see so badly that they'll be willing to change their viewing habits to get it.
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#76Kinda worried that this will be a "web-only" series, Star Trek needs quite a good production to work well, The budget for a TNG episode was 2M$ which was pretty unheard off back then and is even considered expensive these days (GOT which is currently the most expensive running show has about 6M per episode and when you count the fact that TNG had 24-25 episodes per season the overall season budget was almost the same…
Sci Fi shows are expensive to make period - which is why there aren't usually a lot of them on TV. Just think about it: for a normal sitcom or drama, costumes can be bought off the rack and shots can be done on location or on a sound stage with easily-sourced furniture / decoration / etc. Everything on a Sci Fi (or fantasy) show has to be custom-made; from the costumes to the wall decorations to the light fixtures to…
It's not always the budget it's also the production Firefly managed to make very good use of VFX with relatively "small" budget, BSG didn't had an explosive budget either, Star Gate had also a relatively small budget with the VFX heavy episodes having less than 400,000$ effects budget they just used it rather well.
On the other hand you can have very high budget shows looking like B-movie quality, Terra Nova, Falling Skies and Fox's attempts at scifi Almost Human (which was a freaking amazing show and Fox exec's need to pay in blood) and their current Minority Report shows are very expensive but have very low quality looking effects.
And if you want the best example of how budget can easily be misused well then Agents of Shield had a 14M budget for the pilot and even the per episode budget was considerably lower it was still pretty damn high and they still managed to completely cock it up both in the visuals and the story/plot departments.
IF they'll build a solid production team hopefully there are some folks at Paramount Television that worked on previous shows and are still either alive and or working in TV production and give them budget and creative freedom to work then we might get a good product, if this is going to be brand managed like AOS then it's going to be completely bonkers.
AOS is tethered to the cinematic Marvel's universe and it's it's biggest flaw, it's plot is completely dictated by the movies and it spoiled Cap 2 for me and just became a running joke.
Agent Carter was considerably better because it was set back enough in the past that they can do anything without having to tie it in with the movies.
And this is my biggest must have for this show, either put it in the original canon, reboot it again, or throw it so far away from the movies that it couldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole or don't make it at all.
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#77James Doohan's son Chris even impersonates Scotty. (Stays in the family, I guess...).
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sci Fi shows are expensive to make period - which is why there aren't usually a lot of them on TV. Just think about it: for a normal sitcom or drama, costumes can be bought off the rack and shots can be done on location or on a sound stage with easily-sourced furniture / decoration / etc. Everything on a Sci Fi (or fantasy) show has to be custom-made; from the costumes to the wall decorations to the light fixtures to…
> Sci Fi shows are expensive to make period So never saw the Dr. Who series int he 1970s and 1980s :) Personally I loved the campy Dr Whos a lot. BBC - "Your almost Out of Budget and you have 3 part series to finish" Producer - "No problem we will put a trash can over that guy and tape up a few trash bags, throw some kids paint on it and there is our new monster." "We will also call the gravel pit see if we can use i…
And even with Dr. Who, most of the action takes place in the present day -- which helps with saving money on costumes and sets.
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
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The original series is probably worth watching all of, just because there aren't that many episodes, and a few of them are real gems; it also sets the stage for some other things that are worth watching. Read a summary of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (actually if you can, read a summary of a summary, the pacing of the movie is so ponderous). The even numbered movies are the best, but it's probably worth watching the…
There are lists of episodes that hit the "classic" ones, but the original series was remarkably suitable to binge-watching on Netflix, partly because there were few seasons. Many of the episodes are retellings of classic tales, some are downright lame or campy. However, the main characters' development is good. There are some interesting discussions of ethics and philosophy in there, as well. There are certainly epis…
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#80Kinda worried that this will be a "web-only" series, Star Trek needs quite a good production to work well, The budget for a TNG episode was 2M$ which was pretty unheard off back then and is even considered expensive these days (GOT which is currently the most expensive running show has about 6M per episode and when you count the fact that TNG had 24-25 episodes per season the overall season budget was almost the same…
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Sounds like it is going to be on TV.