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Good to hear. Too bad one usually has to buy a new device to get an update.

One does? Hasn't been an issue yet on my almost 2 years old (so, 2 major-revision updates) nexus 5 yet.

Out of 5 android devices I've owned only one received major version update (and it didn't work). So, anecdotally, one does. But I believe my case is more common than yours.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

#92
post #14

Android is in desperate need of allowing users to change permission for app. It's ridiculous that the application decides what it has access to (and android it is not making it easier with a bad permission granularity). And I believe this functionality was in some pre-release 5.0 versions. They removed it because apps would just crash if permissions were removed. However, there are apps that solve this (for rooted ph…

Android 6.0 has the functionality you describe - there's a warning if you try to disable it for certain apps (presumably for older API levels) though that it may cause them to crash. I imagine this'll go away with time.

I just got a Motorola Moto G to replace an aging iPhone 5s. I do like Android, but there are so many features of it that I find just completely irksome.

For example, Google release Android 6.0 but I can't upgrade until Motorola decide when and if I can update my phone. Why can't I upgrade at the same time as everyone else, like on iOS?

Second is the abysmal permissions system which grants access to everything and anything - else you can't talk to your friends on Whatsapp.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

#93
post #33

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Look, I know that nowdays it's popular to pay attention to security and privacy, and I understand that it's important. But can we for once not immediately assume ill intentions? Not really. If I find it important to mention what I am watching or listening too, I can add it myself. Obviously, the goals is not surveillance, since 15 seconds would be a too small amount of time. The goal is getting an even more fine-grai…

I see your point, it's just.... Sometimes people do things simply to add a nice convenient feature. People distrust big corporations, and that makes sense to a degree. But if I imagine a team of programmers that work on that stuff, when I visualise actual human beings that make the decisions, I have very hard time believing that this is the kind of thoughts that go through they heads. Sure, maybe there's some manager…

> People who work at facebook probably have enough money to not be desperate about earning more, and to be free to focus on just making cool things.

But Facebook as a company is under tremendous pressure to boost earnings! Facebook stock has a Price/Earnings ratio of about 70; that means that at the current rate of earning, it will take them 70 years to justify the value of the share price. There's no way shareholders are going to be willing to wait that long. Strong market forces are pushing Facebook to quickly grow profits, and in that process, privacy just happens to be an externality that's not worth protecting.

All employees will definitely feel the pressure (directly or indirectly) to contribute to profits, because Facebook management "owes" that to shareholders who've funded this whole operation (under current market ideology).

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

#94
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, I know that nowdays it's popular to pay attention to security and privacy, and I understand that it's important. But can we for once not immediately assume ill intentions? Not really. If I find it important to mention what I am watching or listening too, I can add it myself. Obviously, the goals is not surveillance, since 15 seconds would be a too small amount of time. The goal is getting an even more fine-grai…

I see your point, it's just.... Sometimes people do things simply to add a nice convenient feature. People distrust big corporations, and that makes sense to a degree. But if I imagine a team of programmers that work on that stuff, when I visualise actual human beings that make the decisions, I have very hard time believing that this is the kind of thoughts that go through they heads. Sure, maybe there's some manager…

People who work at facebook probably have enough money to not be desperate about earning more

Based on casual observation of my surroundings, some of the highest earners I know are also the ones that are the most desperate to keep and grow their earnings.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

#95
post #65

Anyone who has a facebook account deserves this kind of spying.

Is that also true of anybody who is in the same room as those with facebook accounts?

Yes. If you don't block facebook on your network then you get what you deserve. If you have friends or acquaintances who openly use facebook next to you then you get what you deserve.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

#96
post #70

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So I have to ask permission of my friends to send the ongoing conversion to FB, if I want to use this feature, when typing my status surrounded by them? Or every stranger in a bar, that happens to be around me, when I post my silly "I'm wasted beyond believe" status? In my mind, there are ramifications beyond believe there. And I am not really sure, what to make of this.

And this might actually be insanely illegal in areas where recording conversations requires consent of both involved parties.

There's no might about it.

This would definitely be illegal in the UK.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

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post #70

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And this might actually be insanely illegal in areas where recording conversations requires consent of both involved parties.

There's no might about it. This would definitely be illegal in the UK.

What UK laws are being broken?

EDIT: I'm not saying it's okay. I'm just asking what law is being broken.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

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post #97

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There's no might about it. This would definitely be illegal in the UK.

What UK laws are being broken? EDIT: I'm not saying it's okay. I'm just asking what law is being broken.

It's not illegal to record a conversation between two parties. However if you share this recording with a third party (in this case Facebook) then you have to obtain the consent of the other party.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

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Android 6.0 has the functionality you describe - there's a warning if you try to disable it for certain apps (presumably for older API levels) though that it may cause them to crash. I imagine this'll go away with time.

I just got a Motorola Moto G to replace an aging iPhone 5s. I do like Android, but there are so many features of it that I find just completely irksome. For example, Google release Android 6.0 but I can't upgrade until Motorola decide when and if I can update my phone. Why can't I upgrade at the same time as everyone else, like on iOS? Second is the abysmal permissions system which grants access to everything and any…

>> Why can't I upgrade at the same time as everyone else, like on iOS?

Because Google doesn't control updates for your phone and most likely neither does Motorola, complain to your carrier. The carrier has the option to offer a vanilla Android that can be updated whenever new versions are available, but most don't to offer their own customized versions.

Re: Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update

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post #91

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One does? Hasn't been an issue yet on my almost 2 years old (so, 2 major-revision updates) nexus 5 yet.

Out of 5 android devices I've owned only one received major version update (and it didn't work). So, anecdotally, one does. But I believe my case is more common than yours.

Just to be fair, are the 5 android devices non-nexus devices? If so, that's because of the carriers and that's why it's a common problem.
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