What if someone logs into facebook during a murder, could it be considered surveillance?
Facebook is able to identify music and TV when writing status update
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#52Is it just me or is it _beyond_ creepy ? Location, sound ... soon they will be collecting biometric data as well, "just to get room temperature, promise".
Look, I know that nowdays it's popular to pay attention to security and privacy, and I understand that it's important. But can we for once not immediately assume ill intentions? I mean come on, do you seriously believe that programmers at facebook are rubbing their hands and laughing at how smart they are, figuring out how to turn on your mike for 15 seconds? Is that really what you believe is going on? Or is it just…
That is really not the point, firstly they are been underhanded by misrepresenting the fact that conversations maybe stored in a datacentre without their permission.
Secondly, as with the Snowden leaks - say the engineers at FB are well intentioned, having that data travel over the air exposes more than the user is aware.
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#53Lol not sure if its good/bad news..
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as it's opt-in I don't find it that creepy to be honest.
I just fear that it will quickly become something that users just click "Okay" on automatically. A little like "Share your location". The minute something doesn't work as expected because the user didn't share a bit of information people will start just clicking on the "Ok" button.
And of course the "no" button is labelled "Later". And there is no option to mute it forever. Google Play is trying to make me enter my mobile phone number on every single app update. Android is trying to let me scan all apps for security each time I use F-Droid. Those dialogs always appear and I can only discard them again and again until one day I might accidentally click "OK". Google is evil.
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#55Anyone who has a facebook account deserves this kind of spying.
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#56Is it just me or is it _beyond_ creepy ? Location, sound ... soon they will be collecting biometric data as well, "just to get room temperature, promise".
Look, I know that nowdays it's popular to pay attention to security and privacy, and I understand that it's important. But can we for once not immediately assume ill intentions? I mean come on, do you seriously believe that programmers at facebook are rubbing their hands and laughing at how smart they are, figuring out how to turn on your mike for 15 seconds? Is that really what you believe is going on? Or is it just…
>But can we for once not immediately assume ill intentions?
IMHO we should always assume ill intentions. Always.
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#57"Are you recording my conversations, Facebook?" "Of course not, silly! We don't listen to your conversations, we just identify the things you're listening to , of course!" 0_O
> we just identify the things you're listening to, of course
...by recording the conversation so it can be uploaded to the server that does the recognition, because nobody is doing this kind of processing client-side.
Just like the idea that "streaming" is somehow different than "downloading", the commonly-repeated claims that this kind of technology is only "processing" without mentioning where the data is processed is a carefully constructed lie designed to frame the discussion.
The use of propaganda to confuse how their product works suggests that Facebook (et al) knows there would be resistance if they offered the same features plainly. In my opinion this should count as mens rea.
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#58Privacy concerns aside, I'd be very interested on how they're doing this on a technical level. Does anyone know if they've published a post on how this is done yet? Or have any ideas on how they think it's being done?
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just fear that it will quickly become something that users just click "Okay" on automatically. A little like "Share your location". The minute something doesn't work as expected because the user didn't share a bit of information people will start just clicking on the "Ok" button.
What is the name of this dark pattern? It is very well executed by Google in Android these days.
> what is the name of this dark pattern
"Hobson's Choice"
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#60Android is in desperate need of allowing users to change permission for app. It's ridiculous that the application decides what it has access to (and android it is not making it easier with a bad permission granularity). And I believe this functionality was in some pre-release 5.0 versions. They removed it because apps would just crash if permissions were removed. However, there are apps that solve this (for rooted ph…
This is in Android Marshmallow (6.0). Unfortunately, it will take a couple of years before the majority of Android users has this :/.
Definitely, considering there are still 2.x devices out there. I have Android 4 on Samsung and on Motorolla, both of them really not that old (released on 07/2013 and 05/2014 respectively). And no sign of an update...
However, I was forced to update my Nexus 7 to 5.x, and the device became absolutely unusable. So I wonder whether I want the upgrades if even Google can't handle them properly.