My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga • Hacker News Board

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by 0x0 » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 12:56 AM UTC

tzs wrote: post #197

jamiegreen wrote: post #59

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Hi drakonka, I have only just found out about this, and was until now not aware of what happened. I don't know why my cofounder Michael marked you as spam, and I will ask him to contact you. I can only apologise for the handling of your account deletion, it really is not acceptable that it took so long, so we will make it a priority to improve this.

As part of cleaning this mess up you need to also institute an inviolable policy that you will never edit a user's profile without the user's permission unless legally required to. If there is something in a profile that you cannot allow to remain on your site then you should delete the profile content. If you want to name and shame spammers it should be done somewhere other than the profile. This is important becaus…

Maybe they should change their name to LiveDoxxing dot tv...

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by jasonbarone » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:02 AM UTC

jraines wrote: post #24

seivan wrote: post #19

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They are super spammy, I've unsubscribed several times and still get emails. Sticking with Twitch.

I was about to sign up, with about the same reason and interest level as the post author. How's Twitch for this?

Youtube Live is great for live coding.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by tzs » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:07 AM UTC

austenallred wrote: post #91

nemexy wrote: post #55

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Can anyone please explain to me why a YC company is making such a terrible name for themselves at a website which is literally FULL with people, who they should aim at building positive image with. I am pretty sure that over 70% of their users have at least a username in this community. I hardly have ever seen a worse way to respond to a marketing crisis. edit: Now the answer of the co-founder(you can find it below)…

Because the founders suck at dealing with users. YC doesn't run your company for you.

YC doesn't run your company for you, but a big point of YC is that they provide advice and guidance. As they say in an article [1] linked from the YC FAQ:

   Most people don’t do YC for the financial investment—they
   do it because they want the advice, the help of the
   network, the benefits of the program.

Heck, for a long time YC only invested something like $20k and got something like 7% of your company. From a money point of view, only a complete idiot would have taken that deal. What made it worthwhile was getting access to the YC people for advice.

Now YC gives $120k for 7%, so it is no longer completely idiotic from a purely monetary point of view, but even at $120k most of the value is in the access it gives you to the YC staff and the other people YC puts you in contact with.

Because of this a lot of people have higher expectations for YC companies.

[1] http://blog.ycombinator.com/the-new-deal

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by kuschku » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:14 AM UTC

kenko wrote: post #199

kuschku wrote: post #181

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And she’s in the EU, and the company is headquartered in London, meaning this is going to have serious legal consequences. If I had stocks in the company, I’d have sold by now. It’d be a miracle if the company would still be up and running by next week.

OMG. If they're headquartered in London I assume she can sue them under British libel law.

As I mentioned here[1] they at least mention this address on their site. Might not be headquarters, but at least means they are operating under british law.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10487394

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by allanmacgregor » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:43 AM UTC

Just asked for my account to be deleted, their whole response to this situation is insane.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:49 AM UTC

gaius wrote: post #134

jamiegreen wrote: post #59

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Hi drakonka, I have only just found out about this, and was until now not aware of what happened. I don't know why my cofounder Michael marked you as spam, and I will ask him to contact you. I can only apologise for the handling of your account deletion, it really is not acceptable that it took so long, so we will make it a priority to improve this.

On the about page Michael is described as customer‑focused ... and professional Might want to re-think that too.

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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by deepnet » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:55 AM UTC

facepalm wrote: post #56

I think actual deletion of accounts is not a functionality that is high on any startups list - disabling is probably the usual course of action? However, to lie about it is another matter entirely.

It is a legal requirement in the EU under Data Protection Laws.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by karmicthreat » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 1:59 AM UTC

deepnet wrote: post #182

vertis wrote: post #178

Slightly unrelated note, but I received a spam email from Michael@Livecoding.tv on Saturday. I will NEVER EVER use a site that spams like this: > Hey Luke, > I've been searching code repos and found that you also love coding. Would be cool to see your awesome code and projects on Livecoding.tv > Livecoding.tv is a livestreaming platform for coders to share their code and hang out. We have users from 194 countries and…

Weirdly on that page you can hire the CEO, Dr Micheal Garbade, for $35 / hr. https://www.livecoding.tv/drmjg HIRE ME

I'd argue that is one of the few things live coding is doing right. Trying to get people in the habit of using the platform to exchange cash for help.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 2:03 AM UTC

snake117 wrote: post #195

vertis wrote: post #178

Slightly unrelated note, but I received a spam email from Michael@Livecoding.tv on Saturday. I will NEVER EVER use a site that spams like this: > Hey Luke, > I've been searching code repos and found that you also love coding. Would be cool to see your awesome code and projects on Livecoding.tv > Livecoding.tv is a livestreaming platform for coders to share their code and hang out. We have users from 194 countries and…

This reminded me of Eli the Computer Guy's rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h66PNIUtaaE

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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by yokohummer7 » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 2:08 AM UTC

s5edvvddd wrote: post #98

minimaxir wrote: post #33

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DICE.COM EMPLOYEE SPAMMING LIVECODING.TV Liza Shulyayeva banned for spamming. WORKS FOR DICE.com and is just spamming Livecoding.tv BANNED FROM LIIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING BANNED FROM LIIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING+ BANNED FROM LIIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING ...did they mispell their own startup in their vandalism? Also, per her LinkedIn, the OP works for DICE the game-development studio (subsidiary of EA, made Battlefield…

In the last 30 minutes they fixed the misspelling but kept the text as it is. This means someone is currently following this problem and thinks they are in the right by doing this.

I wonder why they didn't fix the plus sign.