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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by kuschku »

drakonka wrote: post #17
bnj wrote: post #9

Can you change the gender on your account? Switch it over to male and set up a couple dozen pseudonyms to throw off their count. If Livecoding has aligned their interests with the gender ratio of their users to the extent that they're treating you like this, makes sense to speak back to them on their own terms. IMHO.

Unfortunately at this point that redirect back to home on login that I discovered after changing my password is still there, so I doubt I can change any part of my account details now; it's just going to sit there until they decide to actually delete it (if ever). But I did manage to change the profile description and stream title to make it clear that I am waiting for the account to be deleted before the redirect wa…

Suggestion:

Write a Cease and Desist letter to

    Livecoding.tv (Livecoding Ltd)
    20-22 Wenlock Road
    London, N1 7GU
    England
That should get them to stop.

A letter such as this costs less than a Euro, and means they have no excuse not to act on it.

Otherwise you can try sending them a fax, that usually also has better chances at success with businesses.

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I kinda want to move my twitch streams over to livecoding just to be able to get into this deletion mess and send lawyers after them now...

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#22

Post by gaius »

kuschku wrote: post #21
drakonka wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately at this point that redirect back to home on login that I discovered after changing my password is still there, so I doubt I can change any part of my account details now; it's just going to sit there until they decide to actually delete it (if ever). But I did manage to change the profile description and stream title to make it clear that I am waiting for the account to be deleted before the redirect wa…

Suggestion: Write a Cease and Desist letter to Livecoding.tv (Livecoding Ltd) 20-22 Wenlock Road London, N1 7GU England That should get them to stop. A letter such as this costs less than a Euro, and means they have no excuse not to act on it. Otherwise you can try sending them a fax, that usually also has better chances at success with businesses. ---------------- I kinda want to move my twitch streams over to livec…

That's odd, their domain name suggests they are based in the small island nation of Tuvalu.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#23

Post by brobinson »

gaius wrote: post #22
kuschku wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggestion: Write a Cease and Desist letter to Livecoding.tv (Livecoding Ltd) 20-22 Wenlock Road London, N1 7GU England That should get them to stop. A letter such as this costs less than a Euro, and means they have no excuse not to act on it. Otherwise you can try sending them a fax, that usually also has better chances at success with businesses. ---------------- I kinda want to move my twitch streams over to livec…

That's odd, their domain name suggests they are based in the small island nation of Tuvalu.

By that logic, Libya probably has the most active startup scene of any country right now.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#24

Post by jraines »

seivan wrote: post #19
deftnerd wrote: post #7

I've been unimpressed with LiveCoding.tv's spammy tactics as well. The decided to enable email notification of video streams for users who have already signed up by using an opt-out system rather than opt-in system. I created an account out of casual interest and then weeks later got slammed with dozens of spammy "stream is starting" emails every day. I did actually try to delete my account as well but gave up when i…

They are super spammy, I've unsubscribed several times and still get emails. Sticking with Twitch.

I was about to sign up, with about the same reason and interest level as the post author. How's Twitch for this?

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#25

Post by kuschku »

gaius wrote: post #22
kuschku wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggestion: Write a Cease and Desist letter to Livecoding.tv (Livecoding Ltd) 20-22 Wenlock Road London, N1 7GU England That should get them to stop. A letter such as this costs less than a Euro, and means they have no excuse not to act on it. Otherwise you can try sending them a fax, that usually also has better chances at success with businesses. ---------------- I kinda want to move my twitch streams over to livec…

That's odd, their domain name suggests they are based in the small island nation of Tuvalu.

There are more oddities like that:

The government of the state of Schleswig-Holstein in Germany uses for most official websites the domain .sh, which actually belongs to Saint Helena.

At this point almost all domains on .sh actually belong to companies or governmental entities in Schleswig-Holstein, the remaining domains mostly belong to geeks using it due to the similarity to the file ending .sh for shell files.

Examples:

- http://www.nah.sh/ (Official transit agency)

- http://www.studentenwerk.sh/ (Official Student Service Agency, operates dormitories, etc)

- https://www.wir-bewegen.sh/ (Kickstarter for public projects, operated by the government; one example is "a 3D model of the city for blind people as map, publicly accessible next to the train station")

Many more such cases exist all around the world, it is... weird.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#27

Post by nv-vn »

I'm not very fond of the admins on there (but not really in the same sense). I signed up maybe the first week that the website was up and found a bug. I reported it to the admins, who then criticized me of trying to hack their website and insisted that I was the same person as another user who had spammed their site. They told me that our IPs were the same (and when I asked them to tell my what my IP supposedly was they simply refused). They banned my account after that and I was forced to make a new one (because at the time it was impossible to watch without an account). The next account I made worked for about a week, but then they banned it as well, I guess because it was from the same IP. I don't think I even used that account once after signing up. Finally, I signed up on a VPN because I wanted to watch a friend who was going to stream on there, and that's the account that I've been using since. I think that they tried to ban that one as well after I logged in from my actual IP because it would log out all the time and I couldn't use any of the available account integrations to log in (having to do so directly by the username/password).

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#28

Post by maxerickson »

minimaxir wrote: post #11

It's worth noting that when Livecoding.tv first launched, you were forced to register and log-in to watch any videos. It took an entire thread on Hacker News to force the founders to backpeddle once they were caught: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9800321 This isn't the first YC startup I've seen with such blatant "growth hacking" tactics, and it's disappointing.

What does "caught" mean in this context?

If you can't use the site without registering, it probably isn't a secret that you can't use the site without registering.

I can see using a phrase like 'called out' or 'called on their bullshit' or whatever, but I don't see how they were 'caught'.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#29

Post by anon5_ »

> "You are scheduled to be deleted on our next cron job. Nothing complex."

Is this serious? What's a cron job have to do with knocking out information from a rdbms?

I imagine a cron job could be useful if there was a script to clear out any static files - but you can also invoke the script manually. "Nothing complex" :)

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