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For buildbots, it's not that hard. See http://docs.buildbot.net/current/tutorial/index.html Instead of using slack, use IRC Cloud.
Does IRC Cloud allow new employees to get the entire history of the channel? I can't see how it would from looking at its page.
This is the perfect counter example to "Open source is better". IRC has been around for 20+ years. But a company that is just a few years old blows it away feature-wise. Sure, you can do all the same stuff in IRC, but look right at the article for why you wouldn't. The answer to every "missing feature" in IRC is to install some extra software and then maintain it. I'm don't want to waste time doing that, I've got pro…
Agreed. I think one of the main reasons for this is that cohesive design comes from dictatorships, not from distributed decision-making, i.e. design by committee.
The strength of open source is that it is usually "good enough", rather than "great" or "the best it can be".
Slack is the wrong choice for large community projects for one pragmatic reason: the 10,000 message limit for free teams. I participate in a large developer community that lives on Slack. Conversations are deleted quickly on less active channels like #lisp or #volleyball, sometimes within a day. This is frustrating when trying to connect to like minded people and also maintain a record and resource for community memb…
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IRC is just a well-established and battle-tested server/client protocol. I'm eager for the day when a competing open source server/client protocol emerges and takes over. I imagine all it would take is a really good reference implementation server and client that everyone can just start using, right?
IRC is just a well-established and battle-tested server/client protocol. Every time it loses another user to a proprietary platform, it loses another battle. Is that what "battle-tested" means?
1. I had to be invited or something? (Still don't know if this is the case always)
2. It still remains a mystery to me exactly how Slack treats different accounts (or are they all the same account?) for different projects. It makes me like sign in to them differently but then they all show up together?
3. The Slack app is great or whatever, but its cool when a project can just embed an IRC channel, and even just make you an automatic account, right inline on their site and not have to deal with signup for anything.
If someone wanted to enter this space, they still could. Just make something that allows you to have one "Account" that would work across the board, had an embeddable widget so there's no "going" to the chat, its just there on the project page, has bots and emoji or what have-you. Maybe Gitter is working on this (already has all these abilities?). But suffice to say, I find it funny (sad?) that the discussion is around how easy Slack is vs IRC when IMHO Slack is still pretty hard and confusing.
Please for the love of god just don't use Slack. We have learned absolutely nothing. Let's all jump on the bandwagon of another closed-source, proprietary, walled-garden service and hand over all of our private intra-company communications to a private third-party in another country. GREAT IDEA.
If IRC were good enough to handle the needs of small software company communication, people would use IRC . Sitting here pretending everyone just doesn't know about a 20+ year old technology is comical. The "IRC Features" section bugs me, too. Unless you run a private IRC server IRC has a long, tortured history of design-based security difficulties. Gone are the days of netsplits permanently owning channels, but the…
>Unless you run a private IRC server IRC has a long, tortured history of design-based security difficulties. So run a private IRC server? This is a weird caveat, like complaining that angelfire is an insufficient web platform and you have to run your own http server to do well. There are a billion IRC clients, libraries, and bots out there. There are IRC servers in most distros. There are JS servers in NPM. Why not u…
If IRC were good enough to handle the needs of small software company communication, people would use IRC . Sitting here pretending everyone just doesn't know about a 20+ year old technology is comical. The "IRC Features" section bugs me, too. Unless you run a private IRC server IRC has a long, tortured history of design-based security difficulties. Gone are the days of netsplits permanently owning channels, but the…
freenode at least has 19 channels with more than 1000 users currently, and one with just barely more than 2000.
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Main problem with IRC is that it's not "always on" and I really need this feature. Sure you can use IRCCloud or SSH/Screen into a server, but they both cost money while Slack is free.
On a project a customer of mine disabled all those integrations because we couldn't go more than one week back into the past. Thery were not willing to pay Slack and we were losing track of decisions and accountability. When that happened we started writing down more things into Google Docs and the conversation shifted naturally from Slack to the comments of the docs. That had the (IMHO positive) side effect of reducing the time spent chatting about the project and of increasing the time spent to actually build stuff.