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Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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Have they made Atom portable yet? By portable, I mean I can unzip it anywhere and it is self-contained (everything happens in its own directory structure)?

Yes, if you download the zip rather than the installer you can do this: https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/tag/v1.1.0

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

#62
post #25

Man, I will have to give atom a try again... been using VS Code for a few months now because when I last tried atom it was painfully slow... I really like the inline markdown preview. Between Atom, VS Code and others, it's really interesting to see all of these tools built around the browser. It's funny because this is heavier than what Mozilla envisioned with XUL apps sharing a runtime. That said, at least writing a…

VS Code is amazing speed-wise, I couldn't believe its web-based at all.

VS Code shares a lot of code with the IE11/Edge F12 Dev Tools and it's great seeing the performance gains in both over the last couple years.

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

#63
post #27

I was reading that page until I hit their preview of 1.2 work, and clicking through to the PR for CJK soft-wrap sort of confirmed all my fears about what a bad idea it is to try and write a text editor against a browser engine. Just from skimming it a bit, to handle Korean, their developer decided that Korean characters have a special unique width from other writing systems and gets that width from the cached boundin…

The one thing that intrigued me about Atom is that it would actually run in the browser, meaning somebody would create a version you could load up in chrome/safari/firefox and connect to your github account etc. However I haven't seen anything of the sort yet. Does this exist? Locally, I've tried Atom every now and again and even with the new improvements in 1.1, as soon as you get above a certain threshold in number…

Nitrous.io is the closest I've found. I use it quite often, especially on the road when I'm on a Chromebook instead of at my desk.

It's a lightweight IDE (text editor really) and full console. With docker support.

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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post #44

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How often are you running you Macbook in a non-charger-available environment where you'd run your battery down enough to test this? Or have you specifically disconnected to test this? (Not /s, actual questions)

I am working outside (parks, beaches etc) while my little son and my wife play or relax next to me, so it's pretty much every day, with a new macbook I started to get stable 6-7 hours while using sublime text, but with Atom I am only getting around 4 max, so the difference is pretty dramatic for me.

That's an awful long time spent at the park for a kid ;)

But, fair enough.

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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post #42

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How often are you running you Macbook in a non-charger-available environment where you'd run your battery down enough to test this? Or have you specifically disconnected to test this? (Not /s, actual questions)

In a web development class. I also just don't like the sound of my MBP's fan.

When I was in school, most of our rooms had power (or weren't more than 3 hours long), but I definitely understand the sound complaint. Get a full classrooms of laptops under any strain and it gets deafening quickly.

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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How often are you running you Macbook in a non-charger-available environment where you'd run your battery down enough to test this? Or have you specifically disconnected to test this? (Not /s, actual questions)

I have done some tests, not on a 15 but a fully specced retina 13 (mid 2014 model). If I am running a couple of iTerm windows, chrome for the dev tools (even though this eats up more battery then safari) with a couple of tabs open and sublime tex i'll get about 6 hours on average running my normal workflow. If I switch to Atom instead of Sublime I get just about 5 hours. This is down to ~10% before anxiety kicks in a…

Worst case no cord, it just sleeps, right? No reason to worry, power is always close at hand, and hopefully (!) none of your files are just going to vanish if it does so.

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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I've tried that editor year or so ago, and was disappointed that it ever tried to connect to the network to do all sort of stuff. Don't really remember any details, I think there was some analytics, auto-updates etc etc. I'm certain that it can all be disabled, but is there any ready to use recipe to do so? I mean, I want all the non-network-related software I use to literally never try to do anything network-related…

I don't know why this is being downvoted. Atom automatically downloads updates and also hits a google analytics URL every time you open it. The latter can be prevented if you disable the metrics package but you can't turn off update auto-download. This is unacceptable for what essentially is a text editor.

Don't forget it also automatically sends arbitrary data, possibly sensitive to bugsnag.com when an exception occurs and AFAIK, this is not covered by disabling analytics and possibly not by the privacy policy either.

https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/4966

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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I don't know why this is being downvoted. Atom automatically downloads updates and also hits a google analytics URL every time you open it. The latter can be prevented if you disable the metrics package but you can't turn off update auto-download. This is unacceptable for what essentially is a text editor.

Unacceptable to you. I'm OK with it -- at least when (like Atom) the code that does the data collecting is open source. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that using the internet to collect data on usage patterns is a sufficiently powerful technique that if web apps were the only apps able to do it, web apps would probably eventually drive out native apps (and I don't think I would like that).

> In fact, I'd go so far as to say that using the internet to collect data on usage patterns is a sufficiently powerful technique

No-one is saying that's a bad thing. What's bad is that it does this automatically without your consent, so long before you can even disable it, it's already leaking data.

What's even worse is that it also send potentially sensitive data that appear in exceptions to bugsnag.com and AFAIK, there's no way to disable that by disabling the metrics collection. In fact they don't seem to tell you about it at all.

https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/4966

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one thing that intrigued me about Atom is that it would actually run in the browser, meaning somebody would create a version you could load up in chrome/safari/firefox and connect to your github account etc. However I haven't seen anything of the sort yet. Does this exist? Locally, I've tried Atom every now and again and even with the new improvements in 1.1, as soon as you get above a certain threshold in number…

Nitrous.io is the closest I've found. I use it quite often, especially on the road when I'm on a Chromebook instead of at my desk. It's a lightweight IDE (text editor really) and full console. With docker support.

Have you tried out Codeanywhere.com? We just launched a new version that can handle huge files.

Re: Atom 1.1 is out

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post #27

I was reading that page until I hit their preview of 1.2 work, and clicking through to the PR for CJK soft-wrap sort of confirmed all my fears about what a bad idea it is to try and write a text editor against a browser engine. Just from skimming it a bit, to handle Korean, their developer decided that Korean characters have a special unique width from other writing systems and gets that width from the cached boundin…

The one thing that intrigued me about Atom is that it would actually run in the browser, meaning somebody would create a version you could load up in chrome/safari/firefox and connect to your github account etc. However I haven't seen anything of the sort yet. Does this exist? Locally, I've tried Atom every now and again and even with the new improvements in 1.1, as soon as you get above a certain threshold in number…

A lot of Cloud IDEs actually are 'snappier' :)
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