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Re: Ask HN: Where can I find high quality writing services?

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You have to be kidding. And I mean full John McEnroe "You cannot be serious." First of all $150 for a 750-word article would be a good payment. Assuming you aren't asking for more words than that ("blog post" suggests no), you can have your pick of people. Second, evaluating writers is the simplest damned task in the world. Read their frigging code. Third, average reading speed is 200 words a minute, so you could rea…

> UPDATE: There are, by and large, two broad types of writers: extroverts who promote themselves capably, but might or might not have equally good skills, and introverts who lock themselves away and aren't great at self-promotion. That in itself is a broad swath of a statement, and not necessarily true. Why does being an extrovert have to be correlated with being and impostor, and introvert just simply these poor hum…

1. What part of the phrase "might or might not" wasn't clear to you?

2. Where in "introverts who lock themselves away and aren't great at self-promotion" do you see any assertion about talent?

What you're saying is a word salad, primed by not reading what I wrote carefully.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I find high quality writing services?

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post #9

You have to be kidding. And I mean full John McEnroe "You cannot be serious." First of all $150 for a 750-word article would be a good payment. Assuming you aren't asking for more words than that ("blog post" suggests no), you can have your pick of people. Second, evaluating writers is the simplest damned task in the world. Read their frigging code. Third, average reading speed is 200 words a minute, so you could rea…

Well. I'm not kidding at all. I read a bunch of reviews as for the Elance/Odesk/Upwork/Etc. Most of what I heard is "stay away from them if you are looking for something really good". I also found a couple companies that do (as per reviews) a relatively good job. But the prices are crazy ($300-500 per article). Some other companies say "30$ for 1000 words article". So I was a bit confused about all of these costs.

What do you mean by "really good"? Spelt right and mildly engaging, or the next EB White's "This is New York"?

First you'll find on Upwork or Textbroker no problem. Latter will be a long search for a great writer who creates exactly the work you want.

Writing is like most other unregulated professional services in that costs vary wildly, as does quality, and the two are not necessarily correlated.

Get samples, ask friends for recommendations, find blog posts you like and e-mail the authors, give small easily completed sample tasks that grow into big assignments and build a solid relationship with one vendor over time.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I find high quality writing services?

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post #9

You have to be kidding. And I mean full John McEnroe "You cannot be serious." First of all $150 for a 750-word article would be a good payment. Assuming you aren't asking for more words than that ("blog post" suggests no), you can have your pick of people. Second, evaluating writers is the simplest damned task in the world. Read their frigging code. Third, average reading speed is 200 words a minute, so you could rea…

Well. I'm not kidding at all. I read a bunch of reviews as for the Elance/Odesk/Upwork/Etc. Most of what I heard is "stay away from them if you are looking for something really good". I also found a couple companies that do (as per reviews) a relatively good job. But the prices are crazy ($300-500 per article). Some other companies say "30$ for 1000 words article". So I was a bit confused about all of these costs.

Elance and Odesk merged to become Upwork.

What you heard about those sites is incorrect-- or, more precisely, incomplete. It's like my saying "A lot of the people on GitHub couldn't build a program to display 'Hello World!'"

Many of the writers on Upwork who bid on jobs are worthless-- people who have trouble writing a coherent sentence. Others are fronts for offshore content mills.

You will also find (1) copywriters who got thrown out of work when their ad/PR agency folded, (2) reporters who have been laid off as their papers shrunk, (3) staff writers for magazines who quit to have kids (or, if they're men) raise a child, (4) retirees who need cash, (5) people with disabilities who need to work from home or (6) someone working 40 hours, but looking to moonlight to make extra cash.

Unlike (say) database administration, where you can't judge competence from a resume, you can evaluate a writer's ability in 30 seconds-- ask for a writing submission and read what they write.

The $300-500 places price for one job-- that assumes they do it, you go away and they never see you again. Part of the cost is the research time they need to become knowledgeable. For people who can provide a steady income stream, they charge a lot less.

I think it's simpler to find one of the many people who need work-- and would kill for a chance to make $100-$300 a piece-- but it's up to you.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I find high quality writing services?

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You have to be kidding. And I mean full John McEnroe "You cannot be serious." First of all $150 for a 750-word article would be a good payment. Assuming you aren't asking for more words than that ("blog post" suggests no), you can have your pick of people. Second, evaluating writers is the simplest damned task in the world. Read their frigging code. Third, average reading speed is 200 words a minute, so you could rea…

$150 for a 750 word article? are you mad?

If they are working full-time and only pumping out 4 posts a week... well... I think you need to look for another writer.

I have hired teams of writers before and they should be pumping out at least 2 750 word articles a day.

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