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I asked farmers about this. They said it was stupid now that we have electricity. And even then, with the shorter days.. it was still stupid. (I'm quoting them)
I wish people would quit repeating the farmer myth. No farmer I have met wants daylight savings time. Look at Indiana for some perspective. Farm animals do not have watches.
I'm reminded of this quote: "I was in favour of space exploration until I realised what it'd mean for date time libraries" https://twitter.com/joe_jag/status/510048646482894848
All space time clocks may run at GMT+00 with no regional differences. Actually we may remove time zones all together too. So the day time of 3pm will be different everywhere. For calendar months and seasons we already have it like that, in both hemispheres. The only issue is backward incompatibility with legacy movies, books who talk about breakfast at 8am. Similarly, a love song which talks about April/May being a s…
So you want to abolish time zones? Relevant nice write up on the subject
Is there still a valid reason to have timezones altering between states? is it just for agriculture? While we're, talking about changing time monitoring systems, can't we have 13 months with 28 days each? (and an extra day every 4 years added on to december?) :( Simple things, but that would allow us to follow the lunar cycle.
In Northern areas, there's a lot of practical value that gets overlooked. In Boston, the sun is rising close to 5:00 AM as it is at the height of summer. Without daylight savings time, it would be rising at 4:00 AM. I think most people would rather have extended daylight late in the day than have all that extra sunlight wasted when we're sleeping. The counter to that is -- well, let's always stick with daylight savin…
This is backwards. Sunset would be later, at about 5:15PM (the problem would be late sunrise in the morning). For instance, sunset on October 31 in Boston this year will be 5:40PM EDT, but on November 1 it will be 4:39 EST.
You did, however, demonstrate another fantastic reason to rid ourselves of changing our clocks: mass confusion twice a year :)
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I asked farmers about this. They said it was stupid now that we have electricity. And even then, with the shorter days.. it was still stupid. (I'm quoting them)
I wish people would quit repeating the farmer myth. No farmer I have met wants daylight savings time. Look at Indiana for some perspective. Farm animals do not have watches.
Having grown up in Indiana farm country, I'm of the opinion that "DST because farmers" has always been a myth. One gets up with the sun no matter the time. You quit work when it's dark.
Oh, wait, that's not true, either. With the advent of electric lighting on vehicles about, oh, 100 years ago, lack of sun no longer need keep one from the fields. I recall many a late night that the farmer that owned the field next to us was out either tilling or harvesting, lights ablazin' on the front of the tractor or combine.
So we've eliminated the farmer myth, why do we have DST? Few like it, do I...follow the money?
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13 * 28 = 364 not 365. So you'd need an extra day every year and 2 extra days every 4 years. What we really need to do is use some rockets to slightly slow down the rotation of the earth so that a day is exactly 1/360th of a year. All kinds of numbers divide evenly into 360 so that should make building a good calendar easy.
While it wouldn't exactly follow the lunar cycle as the parent mentions, there are already proposed calendars similar to what you mention[1]. Of course, with any calendar readjustment come just as many drawbacks, as the wiki entry mentions some. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar
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All space time clocks may run at GMT+00 with no regional differences. Actually we may remove time zones all together too. So the day time of 3pm will be different everywhere. For calendar months and seasons we already have it like that, in both hemispheres. The only issue is backward incompatibility with legacy movies, books who talk about breakfast at 8am. Similarly, a love song which talks about April/May being a s…
Removing time zones terrestially, while seeming attractive on the surface, generates more problems than it solves: http://qntm.org/abolish There's a lot that could be improved with how we handle things like Daylight Savings Time today, but eliminating time zones is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I'm reminded of this quote: "I was in favour of space exploration until I realised what it'd mean for date time libraries" https://twitter.com/joe_jag/status/510048646482894848
All space time clocks may run at GMT+00 with no regional differences. Actually we may remove time zones all together too. So the day time of 3pm will be different everywhere. For calendar months and seasons we already have it like that, in both hemispheres. The only issue is backward incompatibility with legacy movies, books who talk about breakfast at 8am. Similarly, a love song which talks about April/May being a s…
I think that's a bridge too far. We can't even rid the world of QWERTY keyboards. :-)
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I wish people would quit repeating the farmer myth. No farmer I have met wants daylight savings time. Look at Indiana for some perspective. Farm animals do not have watches.
Just because Indiana doesn't have DST now (for most of the state, anyway) doesn't mean they've always never had it. There was DST when I was growing up in the 70s, and they got rid of it long after agriculture was no longer the primary industry in Indiana. Having grown up in Indiana farm country, I'm of the opinion that "DST because farmers" has always been a myth. One gets up with the sun no matter the time. You qui…
However, we've moved away from the need (mostly) for the potential energy savings, though perhaps for the wrong reasons (we work in offices and factories with little natural light). The remaining reason to keep it is to allow people access to daylight after their normal work hours. But this can be accomplished by shifting schedules. Move the standard start of work from 7 to 6:30, split the difference. And if that seems intractable, shift our time zones by 30 minutes and be done with it.
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Is there still a valid reason to have timezones altering between states? is it just for agriculture? While we're, talking about changing time monitoring systems, can't we have 13 months with 28 days each? (and an extra day every 4 years added on to december?) :( Simple things, but that would allow us to follow the lunar cycle.
You're confusing time zones with daylight savings. Time zones exist so that the same part of the solar day has approximately the same time associated with it wherever you are in the world (prior to the railroads, that was the only time - local time). So I can say "it's 4am in China" and you'll know it's the middle of the night without having to consult Google. They can also achieve the opposite, keeping neighbours on…
Unfortunately that would probably still be as a 'timezone', and if we're doing that it may as well just be UTC since every timezone library I've every used already has that and best of all is only off by a few seconds at most without updates. (Close enough for applications that care about timezones instead of leap seconds.)