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China to begin two-child policy

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Re: China to begin two-child policy

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Post by jquery »

beachstartup wrote: post #289
erispoe wrote: post #248

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Why is there too many people in China? What is the standard to determine the right population?

> What is the standard to determine the right population only someone who's never been to china would ask about the 'standard' for determining overpopulation. it's abundantly clear as soon as you step off the airplane and take a look around. it's just too damn crowded. what is the standard for determining that water is wet?

When I visited China with my wife, she had told me beforehand her parents lived in a "rural" area. What I imagined was acres of farmland and long dirt roads. The reality of "rural" China was closer to the density of Bay Area. It was incredible how dense everything was, even in the less dense areas.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ck2 wrote: post #59
TeMPOraL wrote: post #19

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Maybe we can abuse the fine folks in Shenzhen one last time and automate the entire manufacturing industry away?

China is getting really good at assembly robots too. However if the process can be completely automated then why not do the manufacturing right where the bulk of consumption is going to happen to reduce shipping costs which are always growing.

That's a good point, but we still need to reach that outcome, and this will happen graudally. Whatever the end results of robofactory revolution, it will have to start here, in the factory of the world, because that's where we make robots for cheap.

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Post by dreaminvm »

vinceyuan wrote: post #244

One-child policy began in 1979. In 1980, My mother hid in her relatives' houses and finally delivered her second child - me. I was very lucky because if my mother was caught, I can't sit here to type these sentences. I do understand the one-child policy because there are too many people in China, especially in cities. The population should be under control. (However, as far as I know, one-child policy never really wo…

Pretty much the same story here except I was the third child. I feel fortunate that my parents wanted to welcome another troublemaker into their life.

The scary part was learning later on that the policy pushed many Chinese families to discard their female offspring since boys could earn better.

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Post by austenallred »

funkyy wrote: post #297
austenallred wrote: post #196

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> China managed to succeed in increasing people wealth and loosening laws To be clear, do you think that killing children or forced abortions were major contributors to that? Or does it just so happen that the two happened at the same time? It seems like a bit of a logical stretch to me to say, "America installing democracy didn't work in Iraq, so we shouldn't be worried if China kills or forcefully aborts children."

Maybe instead of building camps and fighting between A and B consider option C? I am not saying its OK by my standards but it seems that this was only way for China to properly handle this issue at the time when they made this move. Your assumption is a stretch. You are putting words in my mouth and that's just below level of conversation one should expect from HN community.

That's reasonable, but that's not what your comment said.

I still disagree with your overall point, but I was responded to what you wrote, not what you had in mind.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

JonnieCache wrote: post #45
TeMPOraL wrote: post #15

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Honestly, for Tinder-like service you just need to turn on WeChat in the evening and run "people nearby" search so that you pop up on a list with updated location. The offers stream themselves.

> The offers stream themselves. Interesting turn of phrase there...

That's how it actually works. You don't even have to do anything. Just opt-in to temporarily share your location by running a "people in the neighbourhood" scan. "Girls" start writing to you offering "door-to-door full range of services".

I say "girls" because I strongly suspect those are fake accounts run by some agency that will dispatch actual workers to you when you agree for the service. I think so, because otherwise China has a really big evening employment and entertainment problem.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #60
TeMPOraL wrote: post #15

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Honestly, for Tinder-like service you just need to turn on WeChat in the evening and run "people nearby" search so that you pop up on a list with updated location. The offers stream themselves.

And this is why my wife won't let me use wechat. Many of my laowai friends had a lot of fun with that.

I installed it like few days ago in hope to establish some unfiltered communication to home, and I already want to uninstall it, because deleting the offers that start coming after midnight is just an annoying hassle. I think it's a fine app to use, but never, ever do a location search after the sun is down.

(That is, if you're not interested in the serivces. If you are, then I guess WeChat is paradise on Earth for the Laowai.)

Re: China to begin two-child policy

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Post by awakeasleep »

funkyy wrote: post #128
sethbannon wrote: post #56

From the article "All couples will now be allowed to have two children". So it seems China isn't so much ending its one-child policy, as augmenting it by one to a two-child policy. This means the brutal and cruel enforcement will continue, only it will kick in at the third child instead of at the second.

China managed to succeed in increasing people wealth and loosening laws (still bad for Western standards, but huge step comparing to China 30 years ago). Only because West thinks this is "brutal and cruel" dosent mean our laws would ever worked there. Some tried giving Arab countries democracy and it turned out they never really wanted it and most of the dictators were much better alternative (still bad, just better…

"Some tried giving Arab countries democracy and it turned out they never really wanted it"

You have a lot of exciting history reading ahead of you if you have the will to learn.

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Post by dang »

melling wrote: post #44
nabla9 wrote: post #20

Once-child policy was brutally enforced and cruel. It was also highly effective way to reduce poverty. China vs. India: GDP per capita versus fertility rate http://www.google.se/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ct...

More ice cream is sold in the summer. Sexual assault also increases in the summer. We should stop selling ice cream in the summer. This is HN. Please quit spewing ignorance.

> This is HN. Please quit spewing ignorance

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