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Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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They all abuse their users in one way or another. Tracking me across the web? How about no? What about distraction? Is time free now? And that's before we get into the malware vector problems. The few tenths of a penny you got for me seeing your ad is much less than my hourly rate for cleaning up a network infected with the latest 0day du jour. Is your (the collective your) company going to compensate me when one of…

I don't personally block ads, but I of course find all the arguments against tracking, malware, etc to be rather compelling, since they don't really fit any reasonable definition of consent, given many users' lack of awareness of tracking and the intentional failure of ad companies to be explicit about it. > They all abuse their users in one way or another. Tracking me across the web? How about no? What about distrac…

When I go to the store and pay for one of their goods and am injured in the store, the store is usually liable if the conditions were unsafe.

People who plaster ads up on their site and trust Google/Facebook/whoever to vet the ads for not being malware vectors are being irresponsible. Again, this respect is a two-way transaction, and the people who slap ads up on their site have demonstrated none for me.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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>Dear Developer, >We apologize that the update was rejected due to an snag >in the review system. The updated item will be available >in the Chrome Web Store within 30 minutes. >Thank you for your cooperation, >Google Chrome Web Store team so a non story?

That happened after this being at the top of HN.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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The good old "there can not be free-of-cost content unless money is involved" fallacy. I am a member of many communities whose hosting costs are paid by the communities, the administrative tasks are shared by members of the communities, I "consume" many sites which only exist because their authors want to express themselves, I use sites that exist because people feel the need to share their knowledge and collections…

Not all news and content creation can be done as a side job or hobby. The people who do journalism, create content, or support that goal of quality journalism need to make a living somehow.

It's entirely plausible that those things are not profitable enterprises any more. A user doesn't have to surrender his/her privacy to prop up a dying industry.

It's possible that journalism becomes supported by patronage the way art once was.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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I've switched over from ABP to UBlock Origin. UBO is so much faster than ABP, uses fewer resources, and does a better job. And, most importantly, they do not get in bed with the ad companies to arrange for acceptable ads. There are no acceptable ads in my view (no pun intended). I block ads precisely because they use my bandwidth, they are a vector for malware, they interfere with my viewing of websites, they track m…

I also switched from ABP to UBO, and I also feel that it does a better job out of the box and uses fewer resources, but it's a marked downturn in usability. Quickly blocking an element like an annoying gif is a breeze in ABP (with Element Hiding Helper), and also quickly seeing what's being blocked (CMD-Shift-V), or adding a custom rule. I have yet to figure out how to do any of those easily in UBO, and enabling advanced mode deliberately disables all mouseover help.

I'm close to switching back to ABP, but we'll see...

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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I'm using UBlock as well and will never look back, but in relation to: > And, most importantly, they do not get in bed with the ad companies to arrange for acceptable ads. Unless things changed, UBlock relies on some of the blocking lists coming from AdBlock so the sentence above might not be 100% true.

In order for this to be true for Adblock Origin, there would have to be a toggle to allow acceptable ads. There is none. Even if their lists whitelisted sites, other lists would negate this. I'm aggressive with regard to ad blocking and use I use the majority of UBO's adblock lists except for the foreign lists.

>In order for this to be true for Adblock Origin,

I guess you meant UBlock Origin?

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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Second time I see your comment, would you care sharing how you accomplish all this?

Sure. I use Firefox and install the following: - Disconnect - Ublock Origen (choose 3rd-Party block lists to suit.) - Privacy Badger (no set up, just install, it learns as you go) In Firefox, use about:config to change the following: - Toggle dom.storage.enabled to False - Toggle layout.css.visited_links_enabled to False - Toggle media.peerconnection.enabled to False - Toggle network.prefetch-next to False - Toggle n…

>In Firefox, use about:config to change the following:

Don't those settings have any adverse effect on any web services you use, such as say Gmail or any finance-related site you use, such as say Amazon? Everything works the same as before (except for now not getting ads and wasting bandwidth)? Pretty good if so. Not familiar with this area, hence asking.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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"Where possible, make as much of your code visible in the package as you can. If some of your app's logic is hidden and it appears to be suspicious, we may remove it." This is the policy it "broke" apparently. Despite the entire app being open source and commented, someone at Google could not understand his code and hence found it obfuscated or "suspicious".

Textbook harassment here. Google is upset these guys are hurting ad impressions. I wonder if this is the beginning of an ad blocking backlash.

What's "textbook" about it?

Google could eliminate all adblocking extensions from the chrome store instantly if they wanted to - but they haven't. This seems like, and now proven to be, just a mistake.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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I've switched over from ABP to UBlock Origin. UBO is so much faster than ABP, uses fewer resources, and does a better job. And, most importantly, they do not get in bed with the ad companies to arrange for acceptable ads. There are no acceptable ads in my view (no pun intended). I block ads precisely because they use my bandwidth, they are a vector for malware, they interfere with my viewing of websites, they track m…

"no acceptable ads" - this is where the situation doesn't work out. Content isn't free, you either pay directly or indirectly. Ads are perhaps the best, easiest and most efficient passive payment system there exists today.

Yes there are a lot of bad actors and general crap that has damaged the industry greatly but that doesn't mean the model itself is somehow broken.

Not sure this falls under "rights" either - you definitely have the ability to do it but not a moral or legal entitlement to it.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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Those are all subscription or donation (wikipedia) based examples. A lot of sites could never survive on those models or obtain the resources to manage them. I'm all for blocking sites that abuse their users.

> Those are all subscription or donation (wikipedia) based examples. That was precisely my point: there are other viable models than ad-supported. > A lot of sites could never survive on those models or obtain the resources to manage them. Tough shit.

> Tough shit.

Not really, it might hurt in the short term but it only gets worse for users to have paywalled/closed access, which will actually lead to more ads and tracking.

Re: An update to UBlock Origin was rejected by the Chrome Web Store

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Those are all subscription or donation (wikipedia) based examples. A lot of sites could never survive on those models or obtain the resources to manage them. I'm all for blocking sites that abuse their users.

They all abuse their users in one way or another. Tracking me across the web? How about no? What about distraction? Is time free now? And that's before we get into the malware vector problems. The few tenths of a penny you got for me seeing your ad is much less than my hourly rate for cleaning up a network infected with the latest 0day du jour. Is your (the collective your) company going to compensate me when one of…

1) Tracking is not as bad as it's made out to be.

2) You have to pay something for the content: a passive ad is far more efficient and actually more private than direct payment.

3) Malware/scams/etc are an entirely different problem. That doesn't mean the model is broken, it just means that there are bad actors that need to be effectively dealt with. Otherwise we could point to any industry and say it all sucks because a few bad guys did some bad stuff.

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