261–270 of 361 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>throwing PCI compliance and SSL encryption out the window If they were using Stripe or similar, then they don't have access to your credit cards. Only the last four digits and expiration.
How bout the part where they're sending expiration date and last 4 digits over http?
I'm one of the founders of Homejoy. I'm still very passionate about the home service space. After leaving Homejoy, I started FlyMaids, where we're exploring a few different angles on the space. We recently acquired the customer and service provider data from Homejoy. We're a small team that has been focused on moving quickly while bootstraping. We tried to quickly test different approaches, but we realize now that we…
Is your site www.flymaids.com ? Seems to be down, getting a Heroku no such app error.
Originally the whole site was up, then they removed the support site, then a few hours later, the entire site.
I'm one of the founders of Homejoy. I'm still very passionate about the home service space. After leaving Homejoy, I started FlyMaids, where we're exploring a few different angles on the space. We recently acquired the customer and service provider data from Homejoy. We're a small team that has been focused on moving quickly while bootstraping. We tried to quickly test different approaches, but we realize now that we…
Why did you copy Handy's site verbatim? Why did you not give customers the option to opt-in to your new venture? Why did you post the logos of news organizations that had never written you up?
I'm one of the founders of Homejoy. I'm still very passionate about the home service space. After leaving Homejoy, I started FlyMaids, where we're exploring a few different angles on the space. We recently acquired the customer and service provider data from Homejoy. We're a small team that has been focused on moving quickly while bootstraping. We tried to quickly test different approaches, but we realize now that we…
Why did you copy Handy's site verbatim? Why did you not give customers the option to opt-in to your new venture? Why did you post the logos of news organizations that had never written you up?
I think it goes without saying that there is nothing remotely legitimate happening here. The fact that Aaron posted this comment and expected anybody to believe it is remarkable. That being said, I spent 5 minutes researching Aaron Cheung and I was astonished by what I found. He has a Twitter account, but has posted exactly 0 times [1]. He has an HN account, but has posted exactly 0 times [2], and only commented twic…
I don't think it's fair to judge people based on a lack of social media presence. Plenty of successful, competent, qualified people don't tweet.
From what I gather from the other comments, it looks like most likely Homejoy's liquidator (Nortonsgroup) has sold Homejoy's user data to Homeaglow. Homeaglow copied and rebranded their own tech as Fly Maids to service this user list.
No sale here.
I'm one of the founders of Homejoy. I'm still very passionate about the home service space. After leaving Homejoy, I started FlyMaids, where we're exploring a few different angles on the space. We recently acquired the customer and service provider data from Homejoy. We're a small team that has been focused on moving quickly while bootstraping. We tried to quickly test different approaches, but we realize now that we…
I'm actually tempted to write a response so harsh I'd probably be banned from hacker news. Instead I genuinely hope that YC will force companies taking the 7% into a no selling on data policy; I'm not saying that is easy to write but I am saying this situation without response smears YC, something I'm sure could be avoided in future.
I did a paper on (sort of) this in law school. My focus was on civil law systems and I'm not claiming I'm the world's foremost expert on this topic.
With that out of the way, it's not that easy. When a company goes bankrupt, it doesn't have a say on what happens to its assets. Furthermore, a liquidator doesn't have to honor commitments made by the company. (this is also why 'software escrow' in the cheap form that is implemented so often is, imo, legally on shaky ground - this was the actual topic of my paper).
So what are the options? One is to put the 'ownership' of customer data (what that means exactly is a whole discussion in itself) into a separate company. But that company can't be owned by the 'real' company, it's tricky in many way. And costly. And makes things (very) difficult, operationally. And it takes away the ownership of a critical asset, making it near impossible to get investment (because who will invest in a company that doesn't 'own' its customer data?) Etc. I don't think anyone follows through on their claims of being 'careful with customer data' to this extent, but then again, of course I don't know the operations of every company in the world.
Basically, once you are in a database of a company, and if that database is worth anything, you are up shit creek when that company goes bust - good intentions and promises do not matter one bit. A new guy comes in who doesn't care about his 'reputation' in the field the company was in, who has a legal duty to get the highest price for any assets, and who is not bound by anything the company did or said. It doesn't take a law degree to figure out how that works out for the 'privacy' of the (former) users/customers.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why did you copy Handy's site verbatim? Why did you not give customers the option to opt-in to your new venture? Why did you post the logos of news organizations that had never written you up?
The answer to all of those questions is: they are dishonest.
That's all you really need to know about FlyMaids and Homejoy. If I ran a startup into the ground I would never ever betray my customers by selling their data!
Earlier quoted context omitted.
and dazzlingcleaning.com, exact copy of Flymaids (i.e. the cached version, Flymaids was taken down just now it seems).
how are you finding these related domains?