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Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by simoneau »

aarontcheung wrote: post #125

I'm one of the founders of Homejoy. I'm still very passionate about the home service space. After leaving Homejoy, I started FlyMaids, where we're exploring a few different angles on the space. We recently acquired the customer and service provider data from Homejoy. We're a small team that has been focused on moving quickly while bootstraping. We tried to quickly test different approaches, but we realize now that we…

Thanks for clarifying what is going on.

For me, however, the weasel-worded "we realize now that we did so in an unclear manner" is completely different than "we realize now we made a big mistake".

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by forgottenpass »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #28

What's the big deal? Homejoy is just hacking startup downfunding... (/s) I'd like to see some kind of stronger YC influence on ethics in the companies they fund. I realize that YC doesn't have any direct control over the companies, but it could be as simple as including good ethics in the traits they look for in startup founders. A while back I started compiling a list of YC companies that spammed or otherwise behave…

I'd like to see some kind of stronger YC influence on ethics in the companies they fund.

Great idea, maybe you should take that up with Paul "Morally, [the founders we want to fund] care about getting the big questions right, but not about observing proprieties. That's why I'd use the word naughty rather than evil." Graham.

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by chris_wot »

codezero wrote: post #230
chris_wot wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, I want to apologise if my tone has been a bit off on a few of my replies. Stripe is very unlikely to transfer credit card data to an entirely different organisation. They also require evidence of PCI compliance before they will do business with you. As for knowing when your business is being dissolved: I have to refer you to their terms of service, found at https://stripe.com/us/terms You agree to give us at l…

Yep this all makes sense. I still think there's a chance it wasn't transferred at all. Since the founder of Homejoy runs the new site it could be that they're still the same entity and business with the same stripe account. Maybe this has its own implications. Unfortunately it sounds like the worst case for them is that enough people report them to their payment provider and they get fined. Clearly what they face the…

:-) if you hadn't asked a lot of questions, I wouldn't have dug in!

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by chris_wot »

syed99 wrote: post #203
chris_wot wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really need to read the PCI-DSS standard before you make comments like that. Rather than me point out exactly why what you just said was completely wrong, I suggest you download it from here: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/PCI_DSS_v3-1.... At the very least, read requirement 4. The simple fact is that they were allowing customers to enter their credit card details and submit that data over HTTP.

If they were using stripe how did they pass details through onto HTTP? as far as I remember their webhook won't even communicate with an unsecure page. They must be using some other payment gateway.

I sure hope they don't gather the data via calls to Stripe's API then push it out via HTTP (and vice versa!)

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by ryanSrich »

cballard wrote: post #211
aioprisan wrote: post #9

This is completely appalling and a blatant ripoff of Handy. I hope they don't get away with this.

Handy is a horrid, racist company. Don't feel sorry for them. http://thebillfold.com/2014/10/my-day-interviewing-for-the-s...

I was searching for that article so I could post it here. Handy is a horrendous company.

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by nommm-nommm »

cbhl wrote: post #64
johnsalzarulo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Card's already canceled. Thanks though.

Some banks allow charges through to cancelled cards -- beware!

Hrm I've never heard of this apart from automatic billing systems ability to request the new card number. Any more specific info about that? I'm interested in how this is possible.

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by chris_wot »

TaylorGood wrote: post #88
JoblessWonder wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I mentioned in another post, they don't seem to be actually registered in Deleware and there are typos related to find/replace (support@flymaids.com.com) so I'm not sure we can discount the chance someone just cut/pasted that from the original Homejoy privacy page. Homejoy's privacy page doesn't load and the wayback machine was blocked via robots.txt so we have no good way of checking that I can think of. Also, ni…

This may be known already, but HOMEJOY, INC. is a Delaware corporation with the filing number: 4815336 ---- As mentioned in Flymaids privacy policy, their "head office" in Delaware is actually offices to incorporate.com; a registered agent for out of state companies. Also, a DBA search in Delaware returns nothing: http://www.courts.delaware.gov/tradenames/JICKioskSearch.asp...

Is there any way if getting the company status without having yo pay $10? Seems bizarre you have to pay to see if the company is still in business or not!

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by giarc »

welder wrote: post #127
gondo wrote: post #48

as someone mentioned in the blog comment, Fly Maids site is a complete copy (with redesigned homepage) of another cleaning service http://www.homeaglow.com/ @johnsalzarulo out of curiosity, try if your login works on homeaglow.com f.e.: both logos are served from the same S3 bucket: https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/fly_maids.png https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/homeaglow.png

Same registration number, office address, etc. > In the USA/rest of the world (excluding the European Union), we are Fly Maids, Inc. (doing business as Fly Maids), a Delaware corporation with our head office at 2711 Centerville Road, Suite 400, Wilmington, New Castle County, Delaware 19808. In the European Union, we are Fly Maids Europe Limited, a company incorporated in England and Wales (registration number 8883585…

This whole ordeal is confusing.

So it looks like Aaron Cheung ripped of Handy's website into multiple clones and is running them separately?

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by MC7447a »

iamcurious wrote: post #140
aarontcheung wrote: post #125

I'm one of the founders of Homejoy. I'm still very passionate about the home service space. After leaving Homejoy, I started FlyMaids, where we're exploring a few different angles on the space. We recently acquired the customer and service provider data from Homejoy. We're a small team that has been focused on moving quickly while bootstraping. We tried to quickly test different approaches, but we realize now that we…

I'm starting to read "passionate about" as "wanting to make money of". I have to make an effort to read it in the classical sense. I fear the same will happen with "share". And when my kids talk about sharing at school I will only think of flooding with memes or of selling things. Now, I'm not a native english speaker, so I can't say if aarontcheung is misusing the term or not. Is this change happening to the english…

Scott Adam's take on "passion":

http://www.businessinsider.in/Dilbert-creator-Scott-Adams-il...

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