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Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by JoblessWonder »

austenallred wrote: post #47
JoblessWonder wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, according to their Privacy Policy you can just shoot them an e-mail: > You may contact us as follows: support@flymaids.com.com Oh wait.... [Bonus points for saying they are incorporated in Delaware who has no record of a business by that name.] *Edit- See below, I searched the company name on the Delaware website two different ways and they certainly do not have an active registration or even a name reservation…

Every startup is incorporated in Delaware, not always as the name they call themselves.

Except they gave me the name to look up[1]:

"In the USA/rest of the world (excluding the European Union), we are Fly Maids, Inc. (doing business as Fly Maids), a Delaware corporation with our head office at 2711 Centerville Road, Suite 400, Wilmington, New Castle County, Delaware 19808."

Trust me, it isn't there. I tried both the regular lookup and just a simple name reservation in case the paperwork hadn't gone through yet. No results for either.

[1] http://www.flymaids.com/privacy

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by mikegirouard »

I tried to book an appointment with a bogus email and got a 500.

The logo image was broken and I noticed an interesting path when viewing it's `src` attribute:

    https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/
I wonder if this is a template theme or perhaps some sort of parent company that has many brands.

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by pavel_lishin »

chris_wot wrote: post #27
kornish wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're probably not porting over accounts by default, but rather waiting for users to express interest by clicking the link in the marketing email. From the original post: > Worst still, as I navigated around the site I realized the email link I clicked logged me into “My Account”. This screen had lots of my personal information, home address, email, even my credit card number.

So hold on... If we can work out how they encoded those activation URLs, or someone intercepts the email then they can get full access to anyone's account? I have zero sympathy for HomeJoy. They failed, which is something I can gave sympathy for. But they sold all their customer's private data without notifying them of this fact, and caused major security concerns in the process!

We don't actually know what happened here. It could have been just one founder doing something shady; it could have been a hack; it could be something we can't imagine yet.

Let's not break out the pitchforks until we know who to point them at.

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

#55

Post by phonon »

gondo wrote: post #48

as someone mentioned in the blog comment, Fly Maids site is a complete copy (with redesigned homepage) of another cleaning service http://www.homeaglow.com/ @johnsalzarulo out of curiosity, try if your login works on homeaglow.com f.e.: both logos are served from the same S3 bucket: https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/fly_maids.png https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/homeaglow.png

It also has the same address/registration number as the one in the privacy policy of http://cleanr.ca/

"a company incorporated in England and Wales (registration number 8883585) with its registered office address at 14 Whittonditch Road, Ramsbury, Marlborough, Wiltshire, United Kingdom, SN8 2PY."

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by mikegirouard »

gondo wrote: post #48

as someone mentioned in the blog comment, Fly Maids site is a complete copy (with redesigned homepage) of another cleaning service http://www.homeaglow.com/ @johnsalzarulo out of curiosity, try if your login works on homeaglow.com f.e.: both logos are served from the same S3 bucket: https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/fly_maids.png https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/homeaglow.png

I saw your post right after I noticed a broken logo on their booking form. I think this seems to be an interesting lead.

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by phonon »

phonon wrote: post #55
gondo wrote: post #48

as someone mentioned in the blog comment, Fly Maids site is a complete copy (with redesigned homepage) of another cleaning service http://www.homeaglow.com/ @johnsalzarulo out of curiosity, try if your login works on homeaglow.com f.e.: both logos are served from the same S3 bucket: https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/fly_maids.png https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/homeaglow.png

It also has the same address/registration number as the one in the privacy policy of http://cleanr.ca/ "a company incorporated in England and Wales (registration number 8883585) with its registered office address at 14 Whittonditch Road, Ramsbury, Marlborough, Wiltshire, United Kingdom, SN8 2PY."

Which is in fact "HOMEJOY EUROPE LIMITED"! https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08883585

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by steckerbrett »

gondo wrote: post #48

as someone mentioned in the blog comment, Fly Maids site is a complete copy (with redesigned homepage) of another cleaning service http://www.homeaglow.com/ @johnsalzarulo out of curiosity, try if your login works on homeaglow.com f.e.: both logos are served from the same S3 bucket: https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/fly_maids.png https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/homeaglow.png

The favicon is also the same, on Fly Maids it links to.

https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/homeaglow/img/favic...

The logo itself is ripped I think, or from stock, there's reverse matches for it from 2014.

http://bebeportraits.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/logo....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8QSBC-8UyqA/AAAAAAAAAAI/A...

http://houseofsakeenah.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/pay...

https://1.gravatar.com/avatar/43a24e847abce572f34bf5e1af5228...

Re: Didn’t Homejoy Shut Down?

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Post by djur »

enraged_camel wrote: post #40

I'm pretty sure I know what's going on. In order to pay off their debts, Homejoy must have sold user account information, including credit cards, to a bunch of local home cleaning businesses. A shit ton of them have been popping around over the past couple of years, modeled after the advice given in this subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/entrepreneurridealong The difference with these local cleaning businesses is t…

How is it possibly legal to sell credit card details to a third party?
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