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Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Spider silk is extremely vulnerable to flame though... I'm not sure if that is mostly related to just how thin it is... But I would like to see a comparison between this fabric and nylon when near open flame. Nylon will melt, what will this do?

Silkworm silk fabric burns, but only after more exposure to heat compared to what it takes to melt nylon.

Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The purpose of the outer shell of a Parka is to lightly and durably contain the insulating material and offer some wind resistance. I'm not sure on the weight of the resulting fabric, but if its in the realm of existing nylon shells and offers greater durability, its a massive win.

ah - so it's possible that the reasoning behind this is the low weight mixed with its huge strength/durability gains?

In theory - although its just conjecture. There are so spec's out there on the Jacket Weight or its windbreaking properties.

If its as heavy as Canvas, then its just novel.

Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Wow, just recently I was looking up all about spider silk, thinking we weren't utilizing it to its full potential - whether medical, military or even fashion. Very excited about this, though it will probably be extremely expensive.

All new breakthroughs start expensive, though. Not until economies of scale come in does the price get driven down.

Don't forget technological advancements, the other price driver. They're 11 years into the research, there could still be huge changes coming in how they can produce it.

Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Sigh, I wish web sites had more information, this from the manufacturer https://www.spiber.jp/en/endeavor?section=3

I'm curious to know what the tensile strength and Young's modulus is for the thread. I get annoyed that the "stronger than steel" moniker when it discusses one aspect of strength and generally related to weight but not volume. Its much less impressive to have a .050 fiber that is "stronger than steel" when the equivalent steel fiber would be .0005.

Interesting questions like "How does it compare to Kevlar(tm)?" are we going to see sails made out of it? What is the durability in the presence of ultraviolet light (aka sunlight)? Is this just a Velben[1] fiber, suitable only for showing off just how much you can spend on a jacket?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorstein_Veblen

Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Another company, Bolt Threads [1] just raised significant money [2] to produce spider silk as well. Started by a few molecular biologists, they too took it from a protein sequence, into yeast, purified the protein in bulk, spun it into thread, then wove it into a fabric. Which means, theoretically they can tweak the protein sequence to produce an entirely new fabric in a matter of a few weeks. Once you get a woven pr…

If the fabric is made of proteins, can you eat it?

Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Another company, Bolt Threads [1] just raised significant money [2] to produce spider silk as well. Started by a few molecular biologists, they too took it from a protein sequence, into yeast, purified the protein in bulk, spun it into thread, then wove it into a fabric. Which means, theoretically they can tweak the protein sequence to produce an entirely new fabric in a matter of a few weeks. Once you get a woven pr…

If the fabric is made of proteins, can you eat it?

Whether or not it's constructed from protein is irrelevant to whether or not it can be eaten. There are many proteins that can be eaten but are not (or poorly) digestible or convey no meaningful nutritious benefit. And for that matter, one can "eat" anything.

The germane question here is "does this have nutritional value"?; the answer is almost certainly "no".

Re: Moon Parka: Outerwear Made from Synthetic Spider Silk

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Another company, Bolt Threads [1] just raised significant money [2] to produce spider silk as well. Started by a few molecular biologists, they too took it from a protein sequence, into yeast, purified the protein in bulk, spun it into thread, then wove it into a fabric. Which means, theoretically they can tweak the protein sequence to produce an entirely new fabric in a matter of a few weeks. Once you get a woven pr…

If the fabric is made of proteins, can you eat it?

Probably not. Your hair and nails are made of protein and they're not very digestible.
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