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The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Isn't this sort of a cake-and-eat-it-too situation? If you want a slim, lightweight laptop that still performs at a high level, you can't expect the old pop out batteries with the little switch we grew up with on laptops. While $400 is expensive to replace a battery, it's obviously not as simple as just popping a new one in, which is the compromise one has to make if they want a Macbook Pro. If you want easily swappa…

Agree. My older Macbook Pro basically has a dead battery and I'm thinking about just replacing the battery and swapping the hard drive for an ssd to give it some new life. That said, it is used primarily at the house so we just plug it in to watch some netflix and browse the web or pull up a recipe for dinner, so it isn't that big of an issue in the first place for my purposes.

A SSD and some ram upgrade can do wonders for an older machine (and price is pretty reasonable for both these days). You can even get kits that allow you to take out your 'superdrive' and install a second hard drive.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Isn't this sort of a cake-and-eat-it-too situation? If you want a slim, lightweight laptop that still performs at a high level, you can't expect the old pop out batteries with the little switch we grew up with on laptops. While $400 is expensive to replace a battery, it's obviously not as simple as just popping a new one in, which is the compromise one has to make if they want a Macbook Pro. If you want easily swappa…

Is this a trade-off that most buyers are aware of? I'm not sure it's as simple as "shaving off a couple of millimeters", but if that's the case I know I would personally trade those millimeters for better serviceability, especially the day I realize I need a new battery. I was thinking about switching to a Macbook Pro, but for me this is just another argument to go with something else. Can't deny that the hardware is…

> I know I would personally trade those millimeters for better serviceability, especially the day I realize I need a new battery.

Eh, does any non-tech savy person really care about anything outside of size and weight? And maybe "speed", hah.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Isn't this sort of a cake-and-eat-it-too situation? If you want a slim, lightweight laptop that still performs at a high level, you can't expect the old pop out batteries with the little switch we grew up with on laptops. While $400 is expensive to replace a battery, it's obviously not as simple as just popping a new one in, which is the compromise one has to make if they want a Macbook Pro. If you want easily swappa…

Is this a trade-off that most buyers are aware of? I'm not sure it's as simple as "shaving off a couple of millimeters", but if that's the case I know I would personally trade those millimeters for better serviceability, especially the day I realize I need a new battery. I was thinking about switching to a Macbook Pro, but for me this is just another argument to go with something else. Can't deny that the hardware is…

More and more PC laptops are moving to the same model. There are a lot of benefits for the manufacturer. Fewer parts (less $ to make), less to break (less support $), can make the laptop thinner and lighter (so you can charge more $), the battery no longer has to be a easy to use shape (have you seen Apple's tapered layers of thin batteries?), extra engineering costs, etc.

There are people who really like/want removable batteries but it doesn't seem to be enough to keep most of the market supplying them. And now that laptops use less power little juice packs (not unlike those for cellphones) become reasonable. Plus in general removable batteries made a lot of sense when basic typing would only get you 3 or 4 hours, but now that many machines can do basic typing for 10+ hours a ton of users can get by without needing that second battery.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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new (1 month old) macbook retina, 12 inch, el capitan http://replycam.com/i/Pasted_Image_28_10_15_17_10_1BE12B12.p... fully charged battery -> 4h max ... (running mostly chrome and keynote) not really the "all day battery life" they promised ( http://www.apple.com/macbook/design/ )

Take a look at the Energy pane of the Activity Monitor sometime.

Chrome on the Mac is very tough on the battery.

A switch to Safari increased my battery life by about 80%.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Normally I'm not one to praise Apple, but I feel a 3 day turnaround on a process that necessitates opening the entire laptop is amazing: most other vendors would take several weeks.

I've witnessed many replacements of screens, motherboards, and CPUs on Dell laptops performed next-business day, on-site. It's all about how much you spend on the warranty.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Normally I'm not one to praise Apple, but I feel a 3 day turnaround on a process that necessitates opening the entire laptop is amazing: most other vendors would take several weeks.

Agreed, and I was going to make the same point.

Apple having service centres (ie, the back of their retail stores) scattered in convenient locations in large cities all over the world, where many repairs can be performed while you wait or the same day, really is a treat.

Which other brands are offering a similar level of service?

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Isn't this sort of a cake-and-eat-it-too situation? If you want a slim, lightweight laptop that still performs at a high level, you can't expect the old pop out batteries with the little switch we grew up with on laptops. While $400 is expensive to replace a battery, it's obviously not as simple as just popping a new one in, which is the compromise one has to make if they want a Macbook Pro. If you want easily swappa…

Personally, I'd rather have a few extra mm of thickness and batteries that are not glued to a keyboard. Efforts could be made to keep this tech more repairable.

Great, you can buy a chunky ass hp laptop and enjoy that big ol paperweight all you want.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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Out of warranty battery service on a Mac ranges from $130-200: https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=Unite... . I think that's a reasonable price considering Lenovo charges $140 for a 75-watt hour 68+ battery for the T450s: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/0C52862/460/D91DC49... . And for $130-200, they will replace your top-case (including keyboard and touchpad). I have had it done more than…

The article mentions that the actual work takes a few hours, but the wait to get the machine actually serviced was 3 days. That is totally store dependent and very clear in the article.

Re: The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop

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I'm curious what other people's perspectives are on the (what appears to me anyway) dominance of Macbooks among developers these days. Is it the convenience of a Unix-y machine with decent drivers, or something else?

Laptops for devs are a pain, especially since IBM sold Thinkpads to Lenovo. Apple makes reliable and stable hardware, and Linux generally just works on it. That's just not true for almost all of the other manufacturers.

Linux user here. I have had little luck with graphics working well on the Macs. The pro's used to have dual graphics card (nvidia and built-in) and I never managed to run linux nicely on them. The best luck I had was with running linux on parallels something which messes up all my keyboard shortcuts.

I switched to the thinkpad (currently, lenovo carbon x1) and honestly it's fantastic. Never had a better laptop in my life (way better than Macs).

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