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Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Do Facebookers never venture outside of cities? Because maybe the UK is weird, but getting 2G even in developed areas isn't that uncommon for me. Sure there's 4G in cities and 3G in many places, but there's plenty of places with poor signal or outdated transmitters (like the town I live in). (This is especially noticeable if you're in a train or a bus where you're frequently changing cells.)

I have to say, when I visited the UK from the US last fall, for the first time with a smartphone, I was amazed at how atrocious the mobile coverage was. I did my research beforehand and went with Vodafone as I expected the best coverage. From the time I activated my phone in Bath, through 3 days driving through Wales, and then up the motorway towards Edinburgh, I got GPRS and EDGE if I was lucky . I think I only occa…

I think that was merely an incorrect perception. The US had substantial 4G coverage long before Europe did. As a whole Europe has been far behind on 4G adoption until recently.

The same is true about broadband speeds. It's widely believed, incorrectly so, that the US lags massively behind Europe on broadband. It's not true however, it's little more than a bogus bashing point spread around online. The US has comparable average broadband speeds to the UK and Denmark, and is faster than Germany, and far faster than France, Italy or Spain. [1]

[1] https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/resources-connectivity-20...

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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It's worth noting that Chrome has a Device Emulation feature, which allows you to throttle connection speed to common presets such as EDGE/2G/3G/etc. It makes testing mobile layouts easier, at the least. https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/iter...

Mark's speaking live right now in India at an IIT Delhi campus

Livestream via a local television channel(s) (as of 12:08 AM 10/28 Pacific)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EFFag29JWg

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Every software shop in the world should be designing and coding for low connectivity speeds.

I read a quote a while back. If you want to develop fast software, use a slow computer. Not only should app developers use slower internet speeds, they should be developing it for the low end smart phones- Which make up for most of people who are using smart phones. Especially in a country like India, there are a lot of people using $20-$30 smartphones. Who make most of the users out there. Develop for them, and you…

You get what you pay for... for many U.S. internet/tech companies India is typically at the bottom of the list of countries where the company's revenue is derived from.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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We, at hike ( http://www.hike.in ), did following things: 1. gave the cheap android smartphone to use as their primary phone 2. asked employees to stay on 2G on their mobile phones It helped a us lot to improve our product for India market.

The first thing you need to fix is sending spam messages on behalf of a user to other contacts on his/her list. Here is a typical example that was automatically sent from my phone to a contact on my list without my consent: "Happy Dussehra! Join hike this weekend & get a festive bonus of Rs. 51 free talktime on joining. It's 5 times faster with 10 new features. http://hike.in" I'm thinking of reporting this to releva…

I totally agree with you. It was such a nuisance. I uninstalled the app 5 minutes after installing.

Also, after the hike fiasco, I kept getting callbacks from many of my contacts that I had given them a missed calls.

Very shady. I don't even know how they do it. I thought it was illegal to pretend as another mobile number.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And "activate every push notification available on my device Thursday".

"Friends keep posting idiotic political rants Friday."

and let's not forget "Candy Crush Invitations Saturdays"

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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What facebook needs to realize is that 2G is not the only factor because of which people don't use the facebook app.

First of all the app takes too much resources and makes the phone sluggish, especially on low end phones which are very common here. (Messenger is big offender here)

I believe one of the reasons why whatsapp became so popular was that it was faster to use than facebook's messenger and you could easily delete media to save storage.

People prefer using facebook on Opera Mini on their iPhones and android phones than using it from the app.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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What facebook needs to realize is that 2G is not the only factor because of which people don't use the facebook app. First of all the app takes too much resources and makes the phone sluggish, especially on low end phones which are very common here. (Messenger is big offender here) I believe one of the reasons why whatsapp became so popular was that it was faster to use than facebook's messenger and you could easily…

> whatsapp

Whatsapp is just as bad. Disallowing it from running in the background extends my battery life from under a day to over 2 days. Why are these messaging apps so resource hungry?

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Even with faster speed available I used 2G for a year because I got it basically for free. Only recently with change to my job I upgraded to 3G to get better audio streaming while on move. Spotify worked fine when I was stationary, but couldn't keep up with me on the highway.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first thing you need to fix is sending spam messages on behalf of a user to other contacts on his/her list. Here is a typical example that was automatically sent from my phone to a contact on my list without my consent: "Happy Dussehra! Join hike this weekend & get a festive bonus of Rs. 51 free talktime on joining. It's 5 times faster with 10 new features. http://hike.in" I'm thinking of reporting this to releva…

I totally agree with you. It was such a nuisance. I uninstalled the app 5 minutes after installing. Also, after the hike fiasco, I kept getting callbacks from many of my contacts that I had given them a missed calls. Very shady. I don't even know how they do it. I thought it was illegal to pretend as another mobile number.

The funny thing is I don't have their app installed. I have 2 Lumia phones that I use only for testing websites (no apps installed) and I have no idea how Hike was able to send messages via my phone to my contacts (have only 2 contacts on that phone). I haven't investigated it yet but looks like they were able to use some Windows related exploit to send messages on my behalf.
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