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Despite privacy concerns, CISA bill poised for passage

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Re: Despite privacy concerns, CISA bill poised for passage

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I'm not sure what your point is, regarding technologists.

Technologists working for EFF are probably giving up outsized salaries at SFBA startups. Advocacy journalists are probably not. I'm sure they're all good people who believe in what they're doing. It does not follow that they believe in every individual position they advocate for; they're a nonprofit, so fundraising is a huge part of their job.

Cool, thanks for elaborating on your stance

Re: Despite privacy concerns, CISA bill poised for passage

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I'm not "painting" anyone. People say things that are misleading, wrong, or outright dishonest. I point them out. I don't feel any need to justify that to you.

Well, wouldn't it be more productive to write your own blog post(s) on why CISA should be opposed?

It would be about as productive as you writing a blog post about how much you disagree with my comments.

Re: Despite privacy concerns, CISA bill poised for passage

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post #92

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Well, wouldn't it be more productive to write your own blog post(s) on why CISA should be opposed?

It would be about as productive as you writing a blog post about how much you disagree with my comments.

CISA impacts more people, to say the least

Re: Despite privacy concerns, CISA bill poised for passage

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post #88

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What specific part of the bill reads like a loophole that would allow Facebook to sell its security logs to advertisers?

I was just responding to what you'd said above: > I do see lots of places in the bill that allow sharing to other private entities or to the USG for cybersecurity purposes.

"For cybersecurity purposes".

It's a short bill. Read it again! These terms are defined, reasonably well.

Re: Despite privacy concerns, CISA bill poised for passage

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I can't believe the number of times this bill has been voted down, only to come back up for a vote again under a different bill or different name. It is like they keep submitting bills until it gets passed. This not only is a waste of time, it seems to be how the lobbyists get their bills passed. Eventually one will get passed and then our privacy will no longer exist. If you want our data, get a judge to order a sea…

>If you want our data, get a judge to order a search warrant. Otherwise it is Unconstitutional. This is my position and nothing will move me from it because it is the principled position. Moreover, the advocates of mass surveillance fail to realize that even if their motives are as pure as the driven snow nevertheless a mass surveillance system will attract sociopaths and psychopaths who survive by preying on other h…

I fear a Police State where it is basically an 1984 type of society. Instead of TV sets watching us, it is our smart phones. The only thing protecting us from the Thought Police is the fact that our smart phones are encrypted so that we can have privacy. Take away that encryption and let the Police or anyone else have access to anyone's smart phone and there is no privacy and you can be arrested for stuff you didn't do but might because some machine learning algorithm says you might commit a crime. Sort of like the Minority Report TV show were they stopped using precogs and went to a Hawkeye program that uses ML to tell if someone is going to do a crime and has access to everything in the public to tell.
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