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Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by 885895 »

sp332 wrote: post #54
kale wrote: post #45

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Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by xixi77 »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #48

Do Facebookers never venture outside of cities? Because maybe the UK is weird, but getting 2G even in developed areas isn't that uncommon for me. Sure there's 4G in cities and 3G in many places, but there's plenty of places with poor signal or outdated transmitters (like the town I live in). (This is especially noticeable if you're in a train or a bus where you're frequently changing cells.)

I am in Chicago, and it is not uncommon to see the connection (AT&T in this case) drop all the way to Edge inside buildings.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by kamaal »

carb wrote: post #52
kamaal wrote: post #36

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>>people said "that's not enough, I want more for free!" That's not what people said. People wanted all things on the internet to be treated as equal, also known popularly around the world as 'net neutrality'. There is a very little difference between, offering something for free. And offering different services for different prices. For eg: Indian Telcos have been longing to bill VoIP calls as regular calls. I'd rat…

Who is going to pay for the uniform access to everything you want?

We are not asking anything for free. We will pay for a internet connection, for the bandwidth and for the speed. Once done, we wish to use that bandwidth and speed they way we like.

But we are not going to pay extra money just to use a chat application over the internet, or make a VoIP call.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by austenallred »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #48

Do Facebookers never venture outside of cities? Because maybe the UK is weird, but getting 2G even in developed areas isn't that uncommon for me. Sure there's 4G in cities and 3G in many places, but there's plenty of places with poor signal or outdated transmitters (like the town I live in). (This is especially noticeable if you're in a train or a bus where you're frequently changing cells.)

Probably not at the same time as they're trying to build the products they do at work?

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by corysama »

kamaal wrote: post #36
sliverstorm wrote: post #31

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Well sure, people wanted more. Facebook offered something for free, and people said "that's not enough, I want more for free!". Not a new story. You might not want to use the service. Fine, then don't! Is your life any worse because it exists? I try to avoid complaining about things which are free as in beer.

>>people said "that's not enough, I want more for free!" That's not what people said. People wanted all things on the internet to be treated as equal, also known popularly around the world as 'net neutrality'. There is a very little difference between, offering something for free. And offering different services for different prices. For eg: Indian Telcos have been longing to bill VoIP calls as regular calls. I'd rat…

You would rather pay for uniform access, but that's not an option for the market we are discussing. Given a large market that currently has nothing because they are unable to pay for anything, would you prefer that Facebook: A) Leave them alone with nothing. Or B) Give them free access to Facebook?

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by xixi77 »

elros wrote: post #14
delinka wrote: post #11

Every software shop in the world should be designing and coding for low connectivity speeds.

Why? Edit: It seems to me that depending on the market one targets there's not much to be gained from designing for slow connection speeds...

The question is, how do you know how much is to be gained, unless you try? Just because you see most customers being on high speed connections most of the time doesn't mean much: for one, it could be because otherwise it's so bad no one does it; plus, a better experience for slow connections/older devices is quite likely to translate to better experience for everyone.

Otherwise, you might figure it out when you suddenly lose most of your users to a competitor who offers a snappier experience.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by ejdyksen »

minimaxir wrote: post #42

It's worth noting that Chrome has a Device Emulation feature, which allows you to throttle connection speed to common presets such as EDGE/2G/3G/etc. It makes testing mobile layouts easier, at the least. https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/iter...

Also, Mac OS and iOS have the Network Link Conditioner, which can do the same thing (from a network perspective) at the system level:

http://nshipster.com/network-link-conditioner/

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by kamaal »

corysama wrote: post #65
kamaal wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>people said "that's not enough, I want more for free!" That's not what people said. People wanted all things on the internet to be treated as equal, also known popularly around the world as 'net neutrality'. There is a very little difference between, offering something for free. And offering different services for different prices. For eg: Indian Telcos have been longing to bill VoIP calls as regular calls. I'd rat…

You would rather pay for uniform access, but that's not an option for the market we are discussing. Given a large market that currently has nothing because they are unable to pay for anything, would you prefer that Facebook: A) Leave them alone with nothing. Or B) Give them free access to Facebook?

You are suggesting we sacrifice the 'net neutrality' principle for a short term gain. Once you let this happen, the telco's will continue with their differential pricing policies citing it has been done before.

Thank, but no thanks.

I would prefer we rather stick with the net neutrality principles.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by pjmlp »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #48

Do Facebookers never venture outside of cities? Because maybe the UK is weird, but getting 2G even in developed areas isn't that uncommon for me. Sure there's 4G in cities and 3G in many places, but there's plenty of places with poor signal or outdated transmitters (like the town I live in). (This is especially noticeable if you're in a train or a bus where you're frequently changing cells.)

Germany and Portugal also have the same situation.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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Post by mslot »

minimaxir wrote: post #42

It's worth noting that Chrome has a Device Emulation feature, which allows you to throttle connection speed to common presets such as EDGE/2G/3G/etc. It makes testing mobile layouts easier, at the least. https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/iter...

I would guess that the majority of Facebook's mobile traffic is through their app.
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