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New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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This is not surprising but I fail to see the downside. The internet is complex already. The new top level domains won't add much to that. I think that there was no end-user demand whatsoever for more so-called DNS extensions, [or] global generic top-level domains (gTLDs)," he said. I run a lot of websites and it was a pain to find good domain names in the last 15 years. With all the new TLDs that problem is completel…

It is a shakedown. Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD. Doesn't it mean anything that registrars were the only people asking for this?

Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD.

Either that, or they'll finally realize it's futile and stop that nonsense.

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

#32

This is not surprising but I fail to see the downside. The internet is complex already. The new top level domains won't add much to that. I think that there was no end-user demand whatsoever for more so-called DNS extensions, [or] global generic top-level domains (gTLDs)," he said. I run a lot of websites and it was a pain to find good domain names in the last 15 years. With all the new TLDs that problem is completel…

You could also just get people to give up the TLDs they're not using.

I find it somewhat depressing that emailing folks about domain names they're not using results in either a) being ignored or b) being asked to pay $40,000.

I'm of the view if you're sitting on names that you're keeping around exclusively because you think they could net you a windfall in the future then you're a bit of an internet twat.

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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It is a shakedown. Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD. Doesn't it mean anything that registrars were the only people asking for this?

Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD. Either that, or they'll finally realize it's futile and stop that nonsense.

Exactly. If I run a business at `10 High Street` I don't set up shop in every town and city on every road called `High Street`. If people go to number 10 in their town, they'll search again if they can't find my shop if that's what they're looking for.

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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host/domain name is way to overabused, people should be using info resouce to find the site they are looking for. This way chrome stepped in the right direction moving people away from domains. There can be other software/internet constructs to navigate to right result, domain names are just vanity plates. It helps it if it easier to type the domain up but only for maybe top 10 sites that you use. Those sites are alr…

what i have been noticing my redirect to search on unknown domain names has been failing more and more, cause is that there are too many domains other so if I type "domain names dog", browser can't send me to google anymore to find if there are domain names .dog, I just get host not found error. Domains can't have spaces, so if you type as such, you'll still get a search in any browser (that has search-in-URL-bar ena…

The DOG file type is primarily associated with 'Dogz' by Ubisoft Entertainment. Holds the graphics and functions of the pet.

http://filext.com/file-extension/DOG

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

#36

Maybe the way it happened involved corruption. But I personally like the new TLD's, not all of them but some like .team, .work, .chat. A few other sports specific domains are also nice, like .soccer, .tennis, .football ... Almost all of the meaningful .com's .org's and .net's are gone. It's time we had new TLD's that make more sense.

agree.

I think that a "globally unique brand" will go the same way as a "globally unique username", for exactly the same reasons.

Goodbye "apple" hello "apple computers"... oh wait, that already happened...

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD. Either that, or they'll finally realize it's futile and stop that nonsense.

Exactly. If I run a business at `10 High Street` I don't set up shop in every town and city on every road called `High Street`. If people go to number 10 in their town, they'll search again if they can't find my shop if that's what they're looking for.

The biggest problem is phishing, bad actors send emails from the slightly off TLD.

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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Exactly. If I run a business at `10 High Street` I don't set up shop in every town and city on every road called `High Street`. If people go to number 10 in their town, they'll search again if they can't find my shop if that's what they're looking for.

The biggest problem is phishing, bad actors send emails from the slightly off TLD.

Our IT guy has actually just blackholed all mail from any of the new TLDs. I don't know exactly what he did, but I suspect it's just a whitelist containing "TLDs from before the Great TLD Expansion." I don't think I've ever seen a legitimate website from one of the new TLDs, and to be honest I'm still suspicious of most country code TLDs.

The new TLDs are a massive problem disguised as a solution in search of a problem.

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

#39
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I don't consider this a surprise at all. I see these new ads for things like ".digital" and ".media" and the only thing I can think of is using them for vanity, such as xyzcompany.media and then using that internally. It's a shame that ICANN is polluting the internet like this.

".com" forever? There is no reason we can have better naming systems. Consider ".io". It's often used by startups and signals quite a lot about a domain.

It means "input/output" to me, and I'm often confused when I end up at a clothing store. Or ".co" which makes me think I'm being phished.

Re: New top-level domains a money grab and a mistake: Paul Vixie

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It is a shakedown. Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD. Doesn't it mean anything that registrars were the only people asking for this?

Companies already have to buy their trademark domains on multiple TLD just to avoid litigating them constantly. Now they will have to buy them on hundreds of TLD. Either that, or they'll finally realize it's futile and stop that nonsense.

Well, attorneys are likely a bit paranoid about the requirement to protect their trademark against abuse or lose it.
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