Is CNN trying to get itself blocked too? They are like the last one (besides Fox News) that aren't.
I'm gonna guess that this article isn't accessible from inside China.
It most definitely is accessible. I'm not running a VPN.
Great Firewall rising: How China wages its war on the Internet
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#22This is the same China whose central government, officially an atheist state, claims authority on deciding who the next Dalai Lama will be reincarnated as - http://time.com/3743742/dalai-lama-china-reincarnation-tibet... I'd love to hear perspective on this matter from people closer to the source.
Is China's claim on authority at determining who the next "reincarnation" of the Dalai Lama might be any sillier than anyone else's claim of the same?
It is a claim they inherited from the Qing dynasty which legitimizes their territorial claims. The current "reincarnation" process was formalised by the 5th Dalai Lama in agreement with the Manchu Emperor, and its origins are certainly more polotical than theological[0]
Of course Your opinion may differ but I it is no more absurd than the President of the Fifth French Republic receiving the title of the Co-Prince of Andorra alongside a Catholic bishop.[1]
[0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalai_Lama#5th_Dalai_Lama [1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Co-Princes_of_Andorra#...
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#23This is the same China whose central government, officially an atheist state, claims authority on deciding who the next Dalai Lama will be reincarnated as - http://time.com/3743742/dalai-lama-china-reincarnation-tibet... I'd love to hear perspective on this matter from people closer to the source.
This is simple, Dalai Lama by definition, since the beginning of all Dalai Lamas, is appointed by a central government.
Fun fact: The Tibetan monk system is a grand scheme to reduce minority people fertility so ethics population is not a threat to central empire. Search for 黄教 减丁 if you are interested.
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#24This is the same China whose central government, officially an atheist state, claims authority on deciding who the next Dalai Lama will be reincarnated as - http://time.com/3743742/dalai-lama-china-reincarnation-tibet... I'd love to hear perspective on this matter from people closer to the source.
This is simple, Dalai Lama by definition, since the beginning of all Dalai Lamas, is appointed by a central government. Fun fact: The Tibetan monk system is a grand scheme to reduce minority people fertility so ethics population is not a threat to central empire. Search for 黄教 减丁 if you are interested.
So we have two of them: one "appointed" by US, and one by China. For further enlightenment, meditate about the half zero ༳ in Tibetan unicode.
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#25Honest question: what is it that Chinese officials fear would happen, if they let their citizens have free access to the internet?
Does not everyone interested have a Hong Kong VPN already (at least that's what I've heard from someone who recently visited China and hit the Wall trying to access the services he's used to)?
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#26Most of my friends here in China just do good without the open internet. Like the article says, for every major blocked application or website, there is a home-grown substitute. People can get the information or the service they need from these substitutes.
I personally find that that the Chinese version of Wikipedia is blocked is annoying.
If the Great Firewall must exist, I'd like it to be more advanced. This way, it can block in a finer granularity. Instead of blocking a whole website, it can block an individual webpage that annoys it.
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#27Says the BBC, from a country that silently introduced a country-wide firewall of it's own for protecting people from porn, extremists and pedophiles.
https://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/censorship
"Whoever is without sin among you, let him be the first to cast a stone at her."
I know there are issues in China, but maybe fix our own problems first.
P.S.: I've been to China, and I've seen people using tech even in remote places with a much higher causality for solving language barriers for example, compared to Western nations. Also, they don't give a bit about copyright ideas, so no, internet censorship is definitely not killing innovation there. Slowing it down a littlebit, maybe, but not killing it.
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#28Most of my friends here in China just do good without the open internet. Like the article says, for every major blocked application or website, there is a home-grown substitute. People can get the information or the service they need from these substitutes. I personally find that that the Chinese version of Wikipedia is blocked is annoying. If the Great Firewall must exist, I'd like it to be more advanced. This way,…
Except for the 1984 implications, I have to wonder about the trade agreement implications with copying business plans and keeping the users inside the firewall.
There really ought to be lots of clauses about illegal support of national companies over international competition which are applicable? China ought to be really sensitive about trade wars.
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#29Honest question: what is it that Chinese officials fear would happen, if they let their citizens have free access to the internet?
In the west, the thing we value (or should value) above everything else is freedom of political speech and freedom to assemble into political groups. These things allow a country to adapt over time by changing who is in power. For that reason, the Chinese cannot have those things. The whole point is that the same people must stay in power. So you can chat online all you want about hobbies or celebrities, but nothing…
Our Chinese history is full of loops driven by the rise and fall of dynasty,this model hasn't changed for thousands of years.I don't think our party have the will and courage to break this cursed loops. SO PITY.
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#30Says the BBC, from a country that silently introduced a country-wide firewall of it's own for protecting people from porn, extremists and pedophiles. https://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/censorship "Whoever is without sin among you, let him be the first to cast a stone at her." I know there are issues in China, but maybe fix our own problems first. P.S.: I've been to China, and I've seen people using tech even i…
The British case seems to be a democratic country where a moral panic influenced policies similar to 1970s complaints about "satanic" hard rock?
It is a bit hard to seriously compare that with a dictatorship trying to control the information to the population...