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SXSW had the chance to take a stand for diversity here, choosing instead to show just how shallow they truly are. edit: Added clarification of which "side" I'm on
What's hilarious about this whole thing is that I have no idea which "side" you are on by your comment. I've seen this exact sentiment expressed about SXSW's decision on both /r/KiA and /r/GamerGhazi.
Why wouldn't they continue with the programming, and be ready to press charges against anyone who behaves violently?
Austin is located in the American state of Texas, which prides itself on gun ownership. Also, the SXSW conference has already had an instance of violence: a driver ran into a crowd of people and killed a few of them. While not intentional, I'm sure the programmers of this conference are eager to separate their brand from the idea of danger.
Though I can see them being overly cautious as a result, I think context is important here: that was a drunk driver running from the cops. SXSW being there was a tragic coincidence.
#SavePoint on why their panel was cancelled: http://www.theopengamingsociety.org/savepoint-dear-community... LevelUp on why their panel was cancelled: https://twitter.com/randileeharper/status/658780409765994496
Which side is which here? I'm not really clued into the whole GamerGate thing... I have seen Randi Lee Harper say some very unpleasant things, and some even more unpleasant things said about her. I know nothing about the Open Gaming Society, but reading their website it seems like a relatively sane organization.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's hilarious about this whole thing is that I have no idea which "side" you are on by your comment. I've seen this exact sentiment expressed about SXSW's decision on both /r/KiA and /r/GamerGhazi.
I don't know much about GamerGate, but I'm definitely not on the side of people threatening violence.
We're on the outside looking in as two horseshoe theory extremist groups duke it out. They both have a lot of valid points, but the value for most of us is just drama and entertainment.
SXSW had the chance to take a stand for diversity here, choosing instead to show just how shallow they truly are. edit: Added clarification of which "side" I'm on
I don't think that's fair to either side of the discussion, or to SXSW. They reportedly received threats and piles of attention over both panels, and they didn't want to deal with that. They allowed both panels to sign up in the name of neutrality and diversity of ideas. And I guess people from both sides made sure neither could have nice things. (SXSW didn't blame anyone, but that's my guess.)
What, exactly, did they think would happen when they stepped into GG?
> They allowed both panels to sign up in the name of neutrality and diversity of ideas.
That's bullshit. When one group is infamous for dragging the other through the trash, issuing death threats, bomb threats, etc. there is no 'neutrality' to be found.
> And I guess people from both sides made sure neither could have nice things.
Again, bullshit. One side is know for getting death threats for existing, the other for sending death threats. One side is clearly to blame.
> (SXSW didn't blame anyone, but that's my guess.)
Clearly.
Now I know that the anti-GG people I know of have been VERY critical of SXSW for giving GG a panel in the first place. I know they've been campaigning and complaining. I'm sure they've expressed disappointment and probably personally boycotted the events.
But I seriously doubt the anti-GG people sent death threats.
On the other hand I can easily see the pro-GGers waning they would send them if their panel was cancelled, or the anti-GG panel wasn't cancelled, or because of some other perceived issue (such as one getting a better time slot or bigger room).
And now that SXSW was cowered to the hate mob, I imagine they'll get threats for for cancelling the pro-GG panel and letting the anti-GG people 'win' (despite losing their own panel too).
It's clear which side I'm on. I'm not trying to hide that I think GG is ruining my hobby. I'd say they're setting our image back 20-30 years but I don't remember death threats over NES games.
If SXSW wanted to be 'neutral' and stay out of it they could have. I don't understand how they went forward with scheduling the panels and didn't see all this coming. It's so predictable and sadly status-quo.
Why wouldn't they continue with the programming, and be ready to press charges against anyone who behaves violently?
SXSW was stupid to not forsee that giving an online flamewar a physical presence was a bad idea.
There is also the fact that concealed carry of weaponry is legal in Texas. And, again, if SXSW explicitly banned concealed handguns at their events, they will provoke a boycott by a very loud, obnoxious group of social warriors who have lots of crossover with neckbeards.
Why wouldn't they continue with the programming, and be ready to press charges against anyone who behaves violently?
Austin is located in the American state of Texas, which prides itself on gun ownership. Also, the SXSW conference has already had an instance of violence: a driver ran into a crowd of people and killed a few of them. While not intentional, I'm sure the programmers of this conference are eager to separate their brand from the idea of danger.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a mistake to think of it as "sides" rather than a small group of people with a persecution complex, and everyone else wishing they'd broaden their perspective a bit.
What's hilarious about this whole thing is that I have no idea which "side" you are on by your comment. I've seen this exact sentiment expressed about SXSW's decision on both /r/KiA and /r/GamerGhazi.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a mistake to think of it as "sides" rather than a small group of people with a persecution complex, and everyone else wishing they'd broaden their perspective a bit.
What's hilarious about this whole thing is that I have no idea which "side" you are on by your comment. I've seen this exact sentiment expressed about SXSW's decision on both /r/KiA and /r/GamerGhazi.
I'm not convinced about the reverse, but that may be because I'm on my side. People can go pretty far to rationalize things.
#SavePoint on why their panel was cancelled: http://www.theopengamingsociety.org/savepoint-dear-community... LevelUp on why their panel was cancelled: https://twitter.com/randileeharper/status/658780409765994496