Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
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Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#2My first thought was that the report is only talking about rectal and colon cancers, so yes diet might affect them as much as (or even more than) smoking.
But that really isn't even close to to being a good comparison when discussing overall effect of risk factors: talking about the effect of smoking while only counting damage to the bottom end of the digestive system is like talking about the effect of drink driving while only counting uni-cyclists.
So the reporting is massively misleading, the inference that the risks caused by smoking and those caused by eating processed meats are even of the same order of magnitude is simply wrong. I shall have to read the actual report to get any real meaning from it.
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#3Also worth noting: The same "known carcinogens" list also includes birth control pills and sunlight.
Not all carcinogens should be avoided.
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#4My first thought was that the report is only talking about rectal and colon cancers, so yes diet might affect them as much as (or even more than) smoking. But that really isn't even close to to being a good comparison when discussing overall effect of risk factors: talking about the effect of smoking while only counting damage to the bottom end of the digestive system is like talking about the effect of drink driving…
Exactly! I'm always disappointed by reporting on scientific research; reading the research helps, but how many people are going to do that? A lot of people will probably change their diets based on this research, assuming that eating meat is as bad as smoking.
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#5Also worth noting: The same "known carcinogens" list also includes birth control pills and sunlight. Not all carcinogens should be avoided.
If I'm not mistaken even sunscreen is carcinogenic
Living has a 100% mortality rate.
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#6Also worth noting: The same "known carcinogens" list also includes birth control pills and sunlight. Not all carcinogens should be avoided.
If I'm not mistaken even sunscreen is carcinogenic Living has a 100% mortality rate.
According to the always wonderful reporting at the Daily Mail, sunscreen is responsible for causing and avoiding cancer :) http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/a-z/s#term262
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#7Also worth noting: The same "known carcinogens" list also includes birth control pills and sunlight. Not all carcinogens should be avoided.
And alcoholic beverages! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_1_carcinoge...
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#8Also worth noting: The same "known carcinogens" list also includes birth control pills and sunlight. Not all carcinogens should be avoided.
And sure enough, the formally-respectable tabloid known as Ars takes the bait:
http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/its-official-bacon-ho...
Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#9Also worth noting: The same "known carcinogens" list also includes birth control pills and sunlight. Not all carcinogens should be avoided.
And sure enough, the formally-respectable tabloid known as Ars takes the bait: http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/its-official-bacon-ho...
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Re: Processed meats as bad as cigarettes: bad reporting on good science
#10Kinda funny how hard some people try to reject a finding which is as well supported as it is obvious ... red meat is bad. Same logic applies here as with cigarettes - you decide if you want to take the risk.
Beyond your personal consequences - meat and dairy industry is also directly destructive to the environment and society on a global level (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3302820/).